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  1. #1
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    www.sa-networks.com Cheats it workers

    I was employed by a member and SEO'Salman Hussain' (who is a member of this community) to do some webdesign for them, the owner decided that he was liking what he was seeing being produced by me. The logo was fine but he wanted some touch ups on the design and layouts, i said fine no worries.

    In the mean time i was still awaiting payment for the screenshots of work i was handing over to him, he said he had already paid..but i havent even given him my details yet....thats where i thought something was a little 'off'.

    One week later i had finished the layout and everything else and still no payment, i asked him many times, but recieved no direct response. His site if u look at it now (which is not my Design) states that within its services it includes webdesign....This is false they havent even currently finished thier site lettle own offer webdesign to customers.

    This company cheats its employees or atleast me.....TODAY Salman Hussain deleted me of his msn after i demanded payment, please! for all who may think of using this company to provide a quality service to them....re-think your choice.

    For those who think this sounds like a rant slandering this company..i can assure you that every point is vallid and true.

    For more information on this story PM me i would be glad to talk to anyone who has had or is having the same problem with his/her employer.

    Finally ill say thanx to WHT for giving me the medium to spread this businesses shifty deals.

    xxen

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    WOW i didnt even seee that, this guy needs to be out of the industry thanx for the post

    i guess i was a little to trusting..thats a good lesson for me
    Last edited by xxen; 12-21-2007 at 10:26 AM.

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    Ahhh That thread was funny to read.
    Sorry to hear about your bad experience, but it is going to help others.
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    You might want to let his design "partner" know about this.

    www.mostardesigns.com

    The company is listed as his partner. But it's hard to tell if this is a real partnership or something he just invented to make himself sound more professional. From previous threads and postings it is clear Salman has trouble with telling the truth.
    If you have to operate your company behind the scenes or under a fake name, maybe it's time to leave the industry and start something fresh.

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    I really don't understand how anyone could have fallen for this guy's scam. I talked to him a few times, and never took a word he said seriously.

    The guy sounds like a newcomer to the whole 'scam' scene, he barely spammed right. One time he recommended a company and their domain wasn't even registered. How could someone be that foolish when they're trying to run a grift?

    I thought the guy was just joking, trying to pretend to be a scammer, that's how bad he was at it.

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    how dumb do you have to be to recommend an unregistered domain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Procyon View Post
    how dumb do you have to be to recommend an unregistered domain?
    As dumb as him?
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    I thought the guy was just joking, trying to pretend to be a scammer, that's how bad he was at it.
    Ha ha ha thanks for making my day

    Glad to see his account is at least set to disabled.
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    Oh boy, do I have a story for you, wait till I type it out. This guy is hilarious.

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    Looking forward to it Cody .

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    Ok, so he adds me on MSN, stating he has years in the industry, saying that he knows what hes doing, and can get us X amount of customers. I was like, yea, ill believe it when I see it. So, after an hour of talking, he continued to hound me about investing in WHMCS licenses and this and that, and buy this, and change that etc. After he told me his stories, which I knew were lies, but he seemed to know a thing or too about WHM/cPanel so I thought I could get him to answer a few tickets. I mean, he didn't want the money... he was "genuinely" interested in helping us... I was like, hmmm, free labor? I'm down with that.

    So for a few hours we discussed things and I setup his account in WHMCS and LiveResponse after running full database backups etc, just to be safe. And then he wants a title.

    He doesn't want to be a Level 1 Support rep, he wants to be in charge. So I decided to give him a name, nothing too fancy, nothing special about it, its a title.

    So he was the Core Operations Manager. I figured, if that was a title I would want it to be mine. So I told him he can look over tickets, see how the other staff respond, if you have any issues, talk to them, and me. I explicitly told him, that nothing, NOTHING, big or small would be done without consulting me. We seemed to have this clear.


    So he told me about the companies he ran, sold out etc, all the usual crap you get from someone that goes to school, he was maybe 15-17. I chose not to believe it, I am pretty good at filtering the BS, but it seems natural for them to make themselves seem better than they are.

    So beyond that, he seemed ok.

    So I go to sleep for the night, and awake to emails in my inbox from "the new manager" like this.

    PC Core have changed few things around,
    1. Late Fee - $5.00 (Not paid within 24Hrs)
    2. Termination - $6.00
    3. Un-Suspend - $10.00

    Please Note if in future we do change these rules you will be given a notice,
    Thank You
    Salman Hussain




    I was like, what the hell? He added all these fees to clients invoices etc, he didn't contact me before doing this, and I had an IM from a friend that Salman had been harassing him.






    So the client contacted me saying that he (his dad) was taking Salman to court, for Battery of a minor, I was like, Jesus! So I immediately banned his account and removed him from WHMCS. Apparently he added him to MSN, (I have chat logs) and kept hounding him to pay his invoice, not due for 5 days. He threatened to send people to his house etc if he didn't pay, he added about 12$ of extra fees to his invoice etc and threatened to add more. He even added a Termination fee...




    The client was furious, but his father was even worse. I managed to work with him so we were back on good terms.



    This is just an overview, he was fired shortly after, his total time employed with us was maybe a day?



    I dunno, be weary of him for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Salter View Post
    Ok, so he adds me on MSN, stating he has years in the industry, saying that he knows what hes doing, and can get us X amount of customers. I was like, yea, ill believe it when I see it. So, after an hour of talking, he continued to hound me about investing in WHMCS licenses and this and that, and buy this, and change that etc. After he told me his stories, which I knew were lies, but he seemed to know a thing or too about WHM/cPanel so I thought I could get him to answer a few tickets. I mean, he didn't want the money... he was "genuinely" interested in helping us... I was like, hmmm, free labor? I'm down with that.

    So for a few hours we discussed things and I setup his account in WHMCS and LiveResponse after running full database backups etc, just to be safe. And then he wants a title.

    He doesn't want to be a Level 1 Support rep, he wants to be in charge. So I decided to give him a name, nothing too fancy, nothing special about it, its a title.

    So he was the Core Operations Manager. I figured, if that was a title I would want it to be mine. So I told him he can look over tickets, see how the other staff respond, if you have any issues, talk to them, and me. I explicitly told him, that nothing, NOTHING, big or small would be done without consulting me. We seemed to have this clear.


    So he told me about the companies he ran, sold out etc, all the usual crap you get from someone that goes to school, he was maybe 15-17. I chose not to believe it, I am pretty good at filtering the BS, but it seems natural for them to make themselves seem better than they are.

    So beyond that, he seemed ok.

    So I go to sleep for the night, and awake to emails in my inbox from "the new manager" like this.

    PC Core have changed few things around,
    1. Late Fee - $5.00 (Not paid within 24Hrs)
    2. Termination - $6.00
    3. Un-Suspend - $10.00

    Please Note if in future we do change these rules you will be given a notice,
    Thank You
    Salman Hussain




    I was like, what the hell? He added all these fees to clients invoices etc, he didn't contact me before doing this, and I had an IM from a friend that Salman had been harassing him.






    So the client contacted me saying that he (his dad) was taking Salman to court, for Battery of a minor, I was like, Jesus! So I immediately banned his account and removed him from WHMCS. Apparently he added him to MSN, (I have chat logs) and kept hounding him to pay his invoice, not due for 5 days. He threatened to send people to his house etc if he didn't pay, he added about 12$ of extra fees to his invoice etc and threatened to add more. He even added a Termination fee...




    The client was furious, but his father was even worse. I managed to work with him so we were back on good terms.



    This is just an overview, he was fired shortly after, his total time employed with us was maybe a day?



    I dunno, be weary of him for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Procyon View Post
    Holy crap, someone needs to be shot.
    Frustrating to say the least. Usually I am good at judging these characters, but apparently not.

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    I forgot to mention, I was missing 50 tickets, some open ones that he declared as spam. Which I know weren't, because I was looking for a ticket and it was gone.

    I have 3 pages of logs in WHMCS with everything he did. I saved that database for record and restored the old one while I had to add 2 clients back into it as they signed up while he was busy F***ing things up.

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    Cody, perhaps your BS filter needs an upgrade?

    Seriously though, I would never let anyone into our system without a contract and have them actually work for us, free or not. I think it was a bad decision on your part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayksolutions View Post
    Cody, perhaps your BS filter needs an upgrade?

    Seriously though, I would never let anyone into our system without a contract and have them actually work for us, free or not. I think it was a bad decision on your part.
    I agree. But one thing for sure is I learned from my mistake, and hope to prevent others from making the same mistake.

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    This guy is constantly contacting me on MSN and recently wanted a job. I asked him some very basic server admin questions as he claimed he wanted to apply for my current Level 3 position I have open. This guy didn't know where to begin.

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    In the mean time i was still awaiting payment for the screenshots of work i was handing over to him, he said he had already paid..but i havent even given him my details yet....thats where i thought something was a little 'off'.
    This is where I would have advised to stop working until payment was received.

    Sorry to hear you got cheated!

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    The employers cheating their employees and other members on the forums, is a bad thing. Such people should be thrown out of these forums.

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    So as an update, the client is still claiming to be suing us, but we don't really know because he is like 15-16 so it is a little merky.

    Here is the chat exchanged with Salman an the Client.


    (9:29 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    hello
    (9:29 AM) Client:
    Hi.
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    you a designer
    (9:30 AM) Client:
    website designer yess
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh excellent
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    u got any portfolio
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (9:31 AM) Client:
    Nah.
    (9:31 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    wHY NOT..
    (9:31 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You done any work..
    (9:32 AM) Client:
    I haven't done it in awhile.
    (9:32 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    oh why not
    (9:32 AM) Client:
    I work and have other things to do
    (9:32 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    oh ok
    (9:33 AM)
    Salman Hussain : Core Operations Manager @ PC-Core.Net is now Offline
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Matt
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Do u need excellent webhosting
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    Yes
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    I have hosting
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh..
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    how much do u pay for it..
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    with you guys
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    $7.95
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Really..
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    yes
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    domain.com
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    but it's having stupid issues
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh my bad.. I didnt know u where my client
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Such as..
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ill help u as im the Manager
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Whats the issues..
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    I have someone helping me, it's okay
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Whos that..
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    CJ?
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (9:53 AM) Client:
    A friend of mine
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ok
    (10:10 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Client
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You have 1 Standing Invoice.
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You do now.. the rules have changed within PC-Core
    (10:12 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    That if the payment slips out within the day. There has to be a payment charge..
    (10:12 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    $5.00
    Session Start: December 16, 2007
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    Can I have my domain
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    ?
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Why..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You want to move..
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    Cause.
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?.. you want to move..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Tell me so i can do what you say.
    (10:49 AM) Client:
    Yes, I want to move. You guys are still going to get the payment from me, this friday.
    (10:49 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Nope..
    (10:49 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You do now that im adding a LatePayment fee, and a termination fee..
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    check your MAIL
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    and youll see
    (10:50 AM) Client:
    I know.
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im adding the termination and the late fee..
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    And before FRIDAY if no payment.. im sending my guys over to your house.
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    So please be warned
    (10:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Its Just the Rules
    (10:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    If no payment by friday, Your domain will be ours and Youll find people at our door step
    (10:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Your Account has been sus-pended
    (10:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    untill Payment being recived
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im going to add the termination fee aswell
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    so by friday you can pay all, then u can Leave
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    with Your Domain
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    The price for termination Has changed to $10.00
    (10:55 AM) Client:
    I don't really like threats.
    (10:55 AM) Client:
    At all.
    (10:55 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im not Threating.. just telling u the truth
    (10:55 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    But im sure nothing will happend like that right?
    (10:56 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    you going to answer//
    (11:00 AM) Client:
    Those are threats.
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Nope
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Its the the truth
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    thats what my company used to do to me
    (11:01 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Look, Dude ive just been through your invoices and youve paid on time.. whats happnin here
    (11:02 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    I can do a discount aswell.. if intrested??
    (11:04 AM) Client:
    I've been having money issues
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Ok
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    No problem
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    please get it done by friday
    (11:04 AM) Client:
    k








    So regardless, he needs some genuine *** kicking.

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    Nice. Talk about a way to ruin your reputation.
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    It is hard to determine his intentions though, I didn't say much after the fact other than, your fired.
    Although as far as I know, I personally am still on good terms with the client, it is still hard to say what could happen. We can only move forward, and we have. But these kind of things happen, so I am only doing my part by warning any other prospective employers that he attaches too. (He is very clingy)

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    You send people round to his house to collect debts? I'm sure there's a law against that, just as there is in the UK...

    Your charges also violate your very own TOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkitchen View Post
    You send people round to his house to collect debts?

    I'm sure there's a law against that, just as there is in the UK...
    Of course not, take what he said with a grain of salt. It really means nothing. That isn't remotely close to what is actually going on. What he said and what actually happens is like apples and oranges.

    If a customer doesn't pay his invoice, we suspend the account, until the invoice is paid. Simple as that, if they wish to cancel, they can feel free to do so. There aren't any hidden fees as he put in his chat.

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    I had my suspicions about this guy, but I was going to try and do some work for him, but I think I'm going to retract the offer.
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    This Salman Hussein guy sounds like a <insert many expletives>.

    The grammar and punctuation on his site is outstanding, too.
    Last edited by omega36; 12-25-2007 at 09:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Salter View Post
    So as an update, the client is still claiming to be suing us, but we don't really know because he is like 15-16 so it is a little merky.

    Here is the chat exchanged with Salman an the Client.


    (9:29 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    hello
    (9:29 AM) Client:
    Hi.
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    you a designer
    (9:30 AM) Client:
    website designer yess
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh excellent
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    u got any portfolio
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (9:31 AM) Client:
    Nah.
    (9:31 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    wHY NOT..
    (9:31 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You done any work..
    (9:32 AM) Client:
    I haven't done it in awhile.
    (9:32 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    oh why not
    (9:32 AM) Client:
    I work and have other things to do
    (9:32 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    oh ok
    (9:33 AM)
    Salman Hussain : Core Operations Manager @ PC-Core.Net is now Offline
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Matt
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Do u need excellent webhosting
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    Yes
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    I have hosting
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh..
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    how much do u pay for it..
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    with you guys
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    $7.95
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Really..
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    yes
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    domain.com
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    but it's having stupid issues
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh my bad.. I didnt know u where my client
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Such as..
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ill help u as im the Manager
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Whats the issues..
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    I have someone helping me, it's okay
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Whos that..
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    CJ?
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (9:53 AM) Client:
    A friend of mine
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ok
    (10:10 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Client
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You have 1 Standing Invoice.
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You do now.. the rules have changed within PC-Core
    (10:12 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    That if the payment slips out within the day. There has to be a payment charge..
    (10:12 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    $5.00
    Session Start: December 16, 2007
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    Can I have my domain
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    ?
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Why..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You want to move..
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    Cause.
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?.. you want to move..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Tell me so i can do what you say.
    (10:49 AM) Client:
    Yes, I want to move. You guys are still going to get the payment from me, this friday.
    (10:49 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Nope..
    (10:49 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You do now that im adding a LatePayment fee, and a termination fee..
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    check your MAIL
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    and youll see
    (10:50 AM) Client:
    I know.
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im adding the termination and the late fee..
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    And before FRIDAY if no payment.. im sending my guys over to your house.
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    So please be warned
    (10:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Its Just the Rules
    (10:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    If no payment by friday, Your domain will be ours and Youll find people at our door step
    (10:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Your Account has been sus-pended
    (10:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    untill Payment being recived
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im going to add the termination fee aswell
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    so by friday you can pay all, then u can Leave
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    with Your Domain
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    The price for termination Has changed to $10.00
    (10:55 AM) Client:
    I don't really like threats.
    (10:55 AM) Client:
    At all.
    (10:55 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im not Threating.. just telling u the truth
    (10:55 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    But im sure nothing will happend like that right?
    (10:56 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    you going to answer//
    (11:00 AM) Client:
    Those are threats.
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Nope
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Its the the truth
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    thats what my company used to do to me
    (11:01 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Look, Dude ive just been through your invoices and youve paid on time.. whats happnin here
    (11:02 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    I can do a discount aswell.. if intrested??
    (11:04 AM) Client:
    I've been having money issues
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Ok
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    No problem
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    please get it done by friday
    (11:04 AM) Client:
    k








    So regardless, he needs some genuine *** kicking.
    why the heck did you format this post so horribly?

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    Cody Salter, I am glad you refused to let that guy work for you anymore. He sound like he was a bully picking on a kid. His behavior was unacceptable. I would never hire anyone with that type of behavior.

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    This guy IMed me telling me about how he owns a great company and offered me hosting. He sounded like someone who was under 18, so I checked out his site and immediately knew he was fake. For kicks I asked him a bunch of questions like if he was a registered company, who his lawyer was, etc. Needless to say, I got tired after a while. A few days later, he contacted me again asking if I was a designer. I loled since the previous chat was him talking about how good his company was and such. Definitely someone to stay away from.

    And Cody, wow. I'm speechless with what he did. It was really entertaining to read, but I'm sorry that that happened to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ub3r View Post
    why the heck did you format this post so horribly?
    It looked fine when I typed it.... who knows.

  33. #33
    I didnt see this before... business association terminated!

    thanks for the heads up!
    Zlatko Lakisic
    MostarDesigns.com
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    Web Design, Identity Creation, Script Integration, Application Development

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Salter View Post
    So as an update, the client is still claiming to be suing us, but we don't really know because he is like 15-16 so it is a little merky.

    Here is the chat exchanged with Salman an the Client.


    (9:29 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    hello
    (9:29 AM) Client:
    Hi.
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    you a designer
    (9:30 AM) Client:
    website designer yess
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh excellent
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    u got any portfolio
    (9:30 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (9:31 AM) Client:
    Nah.
    (9:31 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    wHY NOT..
    (9:31 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You done any work..
    (9:32 AM) Client:
    I haven't done it in awhile.
    (9:32 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    oh why not
    (9:32 AM) Client:
    I work and have other things to do
    (9:32 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    oh ok
    (9:33 AM)
    Salman Hussain : Core Operations Manager @ PC-Core.Net is now Offline
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Matt
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Do u need excellent webhosting
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    Yes
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    I have hosting
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh..
    (9:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    how much do u pay for it..
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    with you guys
    (9:51 AM) Client:
    $7.95
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Really..
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    yes
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    domain.com
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    but it's having stupid issues
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Oh my bad.. I didnt know u where my client
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Such as..
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ill help u as im the Manager
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Whats the issues..
    (9:52 AM) Client:
    I have someone helping me, it's okay
    (9:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Whos that..
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    CJ?
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (9:53 AM) Client:
    A friend of mine
    (9:53 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ok
    (10:10 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Client
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You have 1 Standing Invoice.
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (10:11 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You do now.. the rules have changed within PC-Core
    (10:12 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    That if the payment slips out within the day. There has to be a payment charge..
    (10:12 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    $5.00
    Session Start: December 16, 2007
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    Can I have my domain
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    ?
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Why..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You want to move..
    (10:48 AM) Client:
    Cause.
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    ?.. you want to move..
    (10:48 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Tell me so i can do what you say.
    (10:49 AM) Client:
    Yes, I want to move. You guys are still going to get the payment from me, this friday.
    (10:49 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Nope..
    (10:49 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    You do now that im adding a LatePayment fee, and a termination fee..
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    check your MAIL
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    and youll see
    (10:50 AM) Client:
    I know.
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im adding the termination and the late fee..
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    And before FRIDAY if no payment.. im sending my guys over to your house.
    (10:50 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    So please be warned
    (10:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Its Just the Rules
    (10:51 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    If no payment by friday, Your domain will be ours and Youll find people at our door step
    (10:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Your Account has been sus-pended
    (10:52 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    untill Payment being recived
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im going to add the termination fee aswell
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    so by friday you can pay all, then u can Leave
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    with Your Domain
    (10:54 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    The price for termination Has changed to $10.00
    (10:55 AM) Client:
    I don't really like threats.
    (10:55 AM) Client:
    At all.
    (10:55 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Im not Threating.. just telling u the truth
    (10:55 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    But im sure nothing will happend like that right?
    (10:56 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    you going to answer//
    (11:00 AM) Client:
    Those are threats.
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Nope
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Its the the truth
    (11:00 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    thats what my company used to do to me
    (11:01 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Look, Dude ive just been through your invoices and youve paid on time.. whats happnin here
    (11:02 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    I can do a discount aswell.. if intrested??
    (11:04 AM) Client:
    I've been having money issues
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    Ok
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    No problem
    (11:04 AM) Salman Hussain ::
    please get it done by friday
    (11:04 AM) Client:
    k








    So regardless, he needs some genuine *** kicking.
    I am the client in this conversation and I must say that Salman is a total, disrespectful person. He added me on msn and started talking to me. All of the stuff posted above is completely true. He thought I wasn't with pc-core.net and asked me if I need hosting or need someone to do web design. I have been doing web designing for a couple years now and I am very experienced as I do websites for clients and what not. I am young, and he decided to lay down some threats which is total battery on a minor and I let my dad read the conversation and I told Cody that we will be bringing this to court.

    After thinking for a while, I decided to drop this because Cody has been there helping me when I was a few days behind payment, being very generous and lenient towards me.

    Cody, you are a great guy and I will have future websites hosted through you.

    Thank you.

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    Well i don't know if the stories about Salman Hussain on this forums are real or not but i think you need to review your security policies, you have granted access to your clients database to a person that you don't know.

    You need to check if your customers personal informations and passwords were not compromised.

    Has anyone of you contacted the authorities about this problem or is to much work?

    I see this guy can easily fool people and gain access to sensitive data so is a threat for all of us.

    I think wee need a lawyer to give us some advice about the situation.

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    Well, hopefully Salman will be taken care of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew2991 View Post
    Well, hopefully Salman will be taken care of.
    Yes, I hope so too - I'm sure there will still be (nice) people out there who will give this guy a chance, thinking he's legit. Let's just hope they see this thread first.

    PS: Matt, you handled the situation with him on MSN very calmly, I would have lost it, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega36 View Post
    Yes, I hope so too - I'm sure there will still be (nice) people out there who will give this guy a chance, thinking he's legit. Let's just hope they see this thread first.

    PS: Matt, you handled the situation with him on MSN very calmly, I would have lost it, haha.

    Yeah, I am a nice guy and didn't really care for what he had to say.

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    Its so weird to see this person contacting everyone on WHT. I think he is missing part of his brain because its always the same questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew2991 View Post
    I am the client in this conversation and I must say that Salman is a total, disrespectful person. He added me on msn and started talking to me. All of the stuff posted above is completely true. He thought I wasn't with pc-core.net and asked me if I need hosting or need someone to do web design. I have been doing web designing for a couple years now and I am very experienced as I do websites for clients and what not. I am young, and he decided to lay down some threats which is total battery on a minor and I let my dad read the conversation and I told Cody that we will be bringing this to court.

    After thinking for a while, I decided to drop this because Cody has been there helping me when I was a few days behind payment, being very generous and lenient towards me.

    Cody, you are a great guy and I will have future websites hosted through you.

    Thank you.
    OMG I am speechless, he offered me hosting also and almost got me to do some designs for him, Im glad that I didnt go with him. I am really shocked that this happened. Threatening to come to a person's house because of a hosting fee is just sad and primitive.....
    Zlatko Lakisic
    MostarDesigns.com
    ---------------------------------------------
    Web Design, Identity Creation, Script Integration, Application Development

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