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08-05-2002, 06:25 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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IRC Chat
How do i get an IRC chat server? I know nothing about this... but I want to use a java applet on my website to connect to an irc server.
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08-05-2002, 06:39 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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if you want your own, you need to install ircd
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08-06-2002, 02:38 AM #3Web Hosting Guru
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Man, where to begin....
1) do you want your own IRC server or just link into a channel on something like dal.net?
2) if you want your own IRC server, does your ISP allow this? You might want to look into this first before making any decisions. I know alot do, but some do not allow it.
3) if you never have ran a IRC server, you really need to do some research prior to setting one of these babys up. We have several that we maintain for customers, and they are very very hectic to keep up with.
4) if you want to link into one from a webpage, you need something like JIRC or something of that fasion. There are only about 1000000000000000 of these things out there, just make sure you choose one that is tested and proven with security.
5) IRC servers are very subceptible to DoS, ICMP Floods, and the list goes on. Your ISP, even if they offer shells for IRC, needs to know what they are doing in this area or you will never be up, and possibly held liable for setting this toy up and not having alot of knowledge on it.
Basicly, what I am saying, a IRC server can be a massive undertaking, and that is why some providers specialize in it. There are other ways around all this mess:
1) Find a ASP or Java chat out on http://www.cgi-resources.com or something of that nature.
2) Go to bravenet.com and get one of thier free accounts and use thier chatroom script that they allow you to use free. Decent and fast, just not very robust.
Either way you are going to have to shell out some cash (anywhere from $15/mo up) for a IRCD, or buy a script if you want alot of functionality.
If you want, post up what you are wanting to do and I am sure you will get more feedback as to the best option for your scenario. A full IRCD for one chat room is not really feasible, I will say that.ICQ:176143736
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08-06-2002, 11:26 AM #4Aspiring Evangelist
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If you don't know what you are doing with IRCd then I wouldn't recommend running one.
Especially when it comes to linking servers thats a right pain in the a$$.Jim
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08-06-2002, 11:51 AM #5Web Hosting Guru
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I'll second the point that it's better to just use a channel on a large IRC network like dal.net. That way you don't have to deal with the hassel of maintaining the server.
anyhoo Jpilot is probabbly the best java irc applet although personally I think the guy charges way to much for it!
a few others to look at are:
http://www.majik3d.org/~namhas/jicra/
http://eirc.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/snirc/
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08-06-2002, 06:16 PM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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Thanks all... How do I register for a channel on Dal.net?
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08-06-2002, 07:55 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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i know the guy who owns the dedicated server im hosted on used to run an IRCD for you for $30/quarter i think...
its on the irc.ecforums.com / irc.cubedesigns.com / irc.insanegamers.net / irc.undergroundcandy.net irc network...
...and i like jIRC from www.webmaster.comGone.
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08-06-2002, 08:24 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by acidHL
If you don't know what you are doing with IRCd then I wouldn't recommend running one.
Especially when it comes to linking servers thats a right pain in the a$$.
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08-06-2002, 08:29 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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fatbargains heres some basic commands..
Register a nick
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/msg nickserv register PASSWORD emailaddy
then the next time you goto the server type...
/msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
Register a chan (Must register your nick also)
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/msg chanserv register #channel PASSWORD
Help Commands
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/msg nickserv help
/msg chanserv help
List all availiable chans (mirc) (http://www.mirc.com)
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/list
Irc software
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Unreal3.2 beta10 http://www.unrealircd.com
Services (nickserv etc)
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http://www.auspices.org
http://www.epona.org
if anyone needs any help please contact me
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08-07-2002, 12:56 AM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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Thanks, now I know where to get that irc applet I need.
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08-07-2002, 01:32 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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You may also want to try a network other than DALnet. They're having a ton of issues with flooder bots, spam bots, war bots, nuke bots, hacker bots and just about every other kind of malicious-intent program out there. Maybe you should try a smaller, but still stable, network if you're only going to run a chatroom.
Is Canada the best? Noo Doot Aboot It!
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08-07-2002, 02:09 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Darth
Linking is easy
--Shaun (who ran a small IRC network for almost 2 years).Shaun Ewing
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08-07-2002, 12:50 PM #13WHT Addict
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Get www.webmaster.com's software. Its the best!
Sorry, im a services admin there, had to throw that in.Coming Soon!
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08-07-2002, 01:46 PM #14Aspiring Evangelist
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Originally posted by Darth
Linking is easyJim
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08-07-2002, 02:17 PM #15Junior Guru
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I thought it was easy when i set up my first one. Im now about 100 into it and i can do it with my eyes closed. I also dont suggest using dalnet as its kinda slow.
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08-08-2002, 08:36 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by acidHL
Unless it goes wrong.. if you have never set up ircd.conf before your in for a headache...
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08-09-2002, 11:07 AM #17Aspiring Evangelist
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Aha good old UnrealIRCd - what version are they up to now?
Jim
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08-09-2002, 06:33 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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Unreal3.2 beta10
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08-09-2002, 10:04 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Darth
LOL you think thats hard!? check out unreals conf
--ShaunShaun Ewing
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08-10-2002, 05:20 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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No, nothings wrong with it.