View Poll Results: Should we keep the Social Issues forum?
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11-18-2007, 12:01 AM #126Newbie
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11-18-2007, 12:05 AM #127Newbie
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It's still better than dictatorship, because in a dictatorship a minority is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the majority.
I prefer democracy
But I think we are getting astray ...Last edited by ChrisGraph; 11-18-2007 at 12:10 AM.
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11-18-2007, 12:22 AM #128Disabled
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Just let the forum moderate itself. Give everyone the ability to vote to ban, and ignore it.
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11-18-2007, 12:28 AM #129Retired Moderator
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11-18-2007, 01:02 AM #130Web Hosting Master
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First of all ChrisGraph and outlaw all appear online at the exact same moment on many occasions on controversial topics like this one. Jacqueline was registered today and ChrisGraph was registered the last time outlaw was in a heated discussion. Even Outlaws posts earlier in this thread hinted at that.
I see a development already.I feel some divine intervention is on the way
Bah I'm done with this thread.Last edited by GoTek-JP; 11-18-2007 at 01:14 AM.
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11-18-2007, 01:04 AM #131Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by ub3r
Just let the forum moderate itself. Give everyone the ability to vote to ban, and ignore it.
That could get ugly. I can see all the tickets filing in about how xx unfairly booted me from the SI forum.
Guaranteed it would get ugly...you only have to take a look at the outside world when political discussions go down the self moderating route
hmm Backyard Billy (Mr Conspiracy Theory )....always at the ham...
This has been looked into before by the admins and verified no skullduggery is going on.
Relax bud...you're in the lead....so far
Also....I have $5000 mate to say that I am one person....Chris is another person and Jaqueline too is another person. Please accept my bet.
I'll donate my winnings to a WHT party at Hosting Con in 2008
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11-18-2007, 01:06 AM #132Newbie
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Just a quick note, Backyard Billy ...
quote: jacqueline, ChrisGraph and outlaw all appear online at the exact same moment on many occasions
Fantasy or Reality???
Fact is, that jacqueline signed up today!!!! How can he/she appear online at the exact same moment on many occasions ???!!!
You almost sound like one of my "dear", and extremely weird "friends" from Serbia. Never mind ...Last edited by ChrisGraph; 11-18-2007 at 01:16 AM.
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11-18-2007, 01:14 AM #133Web Hosting Master
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11-18-2007, 01:16 AM #134Devil's Advocate
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lol...come on Billy...my IP for a start is 86.131.xxx.xxx that makes me somewhere in the UK. The admins have gone over this before.
Anyhow...I'm off to my bed, it's 5.16am over here in Edinburgh.
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11-18-2007, 01:19 AM #135Newbie
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Can happen to everyone, Billy Boy.
Don't take your little faux pax too seriously.Last edited by ChrisGraph; 11-18-2007 at 01:28 AM.
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11-18-2007, 01:26 AM #136Newbie
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.....and you call me blonde, Billy?
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I am from Canada. The Outlaw is from the land of tartans and clans. Last time I looked I was a female. He is male.
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11-18-2007, 03:22 AM #137Cloud & Web Hosting Specialist
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11-18-2007, 05:08 AM #139An Awesome Dude
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Yes and all who signed up today JUST TO VOTE should have thier vote DEDUCTED from the results..... (VERY EASY FINDING OUT WHO SIGNED UP TO VOTE!)
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11-18-2007, 05:18 AM #140/me dawns tinfoil hat
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I TOTALLY registered just to vote! j/k..
Anyways..is it just me being tired, or does it seem as if the 3 in question's posts all use about the same grammar, and some were made within just minutes of each other.0
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11-18-2007, 05:42 AM #141Retired Moderator
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11-18-2007, 06:48 AM #142Disabled
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what does it matter whether someone has an 'agenda' creating a thread or posting a post ? each and everyone have different agendas. the requirement is that what they do has to be compliant with the rules and law.
No, you want people to follow your reasoning (including the followers of those religions) but it will never happen. All that can come out of those discussions is bashing because you cannot prove anything, this is why it's a matter of faith!!!!!!!!!!!
Discussing it here will not enlighten those who believe or those who don't. I do not see the relevancy of such a discussion on WHT and this is my final opinion.
I agree with the previous poster who said politics and religions go hand in hand in some parts of the globe and that it would lead us to the same problems (I said it in my previous posts also).
I did. WHT mods shouldn't have to deal with them all-together. This is a WEB HOSTING forum and not connected in any way with your right to expressing your political and religious opinions.
We're not talking about a web hosting company censoring religion and politics, it's a forum and they have the right to choose what they want discussed.
Are they opening threads saying we're all going to hell because we're not following their religion ? If yes then PM me the URL and I'll protest it.
Respect is exactly why we don't tolerate hate speech, but it's a form of free speech whether you like it or not. When you threaten someone because of their hate speech you're infringing on their rights to free speech.
If you see a need to discuss religion and politics, go to google.com and search for Political and religious forums. WHT is not the only forum on the internet. When I want to talk about sex I visit an other forum to discuss it, why can't you do the same ?
just explain this to me. are you unable to control your mouse ?0
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11-18-2007, 06:51 AM #143Disabled
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wow. thats a good logic and a good suggestion.
An option may be put into the profile that makes someone see/not see social issues forum if they choose.
but then again, those people who are totally unable to control their mouse AND their EYES in order not to enter SI forum and actually READ the entirety of the threads they DONT like, this also would not work, i believe. they would just unconsciously go to their profile, switch the setting to "yes, show me social issues forum" and then go into the forum and read every damn thread they can find and dont like.0
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Additionally, there are MUCH more ugly flames and manners in other forums too. Odd it is that these do not constitute a problem in the other forums, but somehow, when it comes to social issues, it suddenly is a problem.
There is no explanation other than some people preferring to drown other people's voices when they speak things they dont like to hear.0
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11-18-2007, 07:17 AM #148Devil's Advocate
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I agree
Also to put the conspiracy theorists to bed...the 3 in question being myself, Chris and Jaqueline are indeed 3 different people or at least we were the last time I checked.
Don't you think the admins have checked our IP's to make sure that they are different as well as our email addresses etc and the validity of them, so close but no cigar.
False accusations are dumb and I've already wagered Backyard Billy $5000 that the "mentioned" 3 are very different people from different sides of the atlantic. If anyone's game to take the bet, then please do so. My winnings will be donated straight into the WHT Hosting Con 2008 pot
Relax and enjoy the voting.
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11-18-2007, 07:24 AM #149Disabled
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Honestly, i see this vote and the proposal that si forum should be closed, on weak arguments like 'there are ugly flames' and 'sensitivities are being hurt' as an aggression and repression against my belief system. Which is, the philosophy of age of enlightenment. Yes sir, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment <- this is more than a religion. Its a way of life.
Yet, we are everyday putting up with people who do not want other people to cross what they believe in, under the guise of sensitivities and freedom. Freedom is being taken as granted at our age, and seen as a thing that can be violated if it suits to do as such according to someone's own beliefs. This is not as such. Many lives were paid as price to get to this level of freedom we are, in which people are able to complain that their "sensitivities" in regard to beliefs are being hurt.
And as such, if any person has to put up with people in any belief, who think that the other people are going to be tortured, boiled in cauldrons, damned with eternal damnation, take them as 'heretics', even villains, and this is somehow NOT supposed to hurt any sensitivity of those who do not believe in that particular religion, and within the rights of 'freedom of speech and belief', then excuse me, but you religious people are also bound and have to put up with other people's beliefs regarding your religion or any religion.
Sensitivity, as i said earlier, is a two way street. If you are sensitive towards other people, you shouldnt be believing that they should go to hell and burn in eternal flames because they dont believe the same thing as you. Its more than an insensitivity actually, it is plainly "ill will" towards other people. Think - you are basically believing, accepting that some other people who do not agree should go to hell, or taken as 'somewhat bad' people, or at some extreme cases killed even.
And again, if you are annoyed with some ideas in a particular forum, just dont read them. People who do not subscribe to any religion or belief system are able to control themselves as to not burst into churches and mosques and listen to preists and imams and then go to the altar and criticize or request that churches or mosques should be closed down.
If i have to put up with religion, religion has to put up with me.Last edited by unity100; 11-18-2007 at 07:30 AM.
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if social issues do not belong on a web hosting forum, then quite frankly neither does a general topic lounge.
i find the dedicated forum boring, so should we get rid of it or should i just not read it.
the lounges get more page views than the other forums. think of what that would do to ad revenues.
on the other hand, maybe you should get rid of it, im sure someone here would quickly take all the members to another forum.
if it aint broke, dont fix it.Last edited by Project X; 11-18-2007 at 07:28 AM.
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