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08-04-2002, 10:26 AM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Powweb...is it possible?
Powweb is offering 25GB transfer per month and load of other features for only $7.70 / month. How is this possible? I mean..i see resellers packages (supposedly wholesale prices) for $30/month and get only 20GB transfer. powweb a scam?
What i think is because they know that not everyone will use up 20GB per month, so they just promise this price...but if everyone uses 20GB/month, they'll probably die! right?
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08-04-2002, 12:47 PM #2Junior Guru
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It is obvious that they oversell... They have about 1000 sites in every server, meaning 1000x25GB=25000GB / server
How can't they oversell???
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08-04-2002, 02:00 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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They are overselling dramatically is how it works. Most hosts oversell to an extent, but once you oversell this dramatically, it's easy to run in to problems.
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08-12-2002, 07:01 PM #4Newbie
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Everyone "oversells". Any host that says they do not is lying (plain and simple).
At Powweb, we manage our servers extremely efficiently. Just ask around in our own forums, http://forum.powweb.com and see.[mB]~monkey_king [Good Server Admin]
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08-12-2002, 07:03 PM #5Junior Guru
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So why don't you add a notice that you oversell in your website???
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08-12-2002, 07:06 PM #6Newbie
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Good question. Why dont you or the host you use do the same?
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08-12-2002, 07:09 PM #7Junior Guru
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I'm asking about your host... This is not a direct answer...
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08-12-2002, 07:22 PM #8Newbie
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First, the term you are looking for is “oversubscribes”.
Let’s get some things straight. Powweb oversubscribes like AOL or Eart***** or ANY company that provides limited services to customers. Think AOL has 20,000,000 modems attached to the Internet? Try 1/10 that # and your a bit closer. Get the point?
With web hosting, since we can’t oversubscribe connectivity, we oversell bandwidth, but we dont really oversell it because we dont really have ANY limits (i.e.: we pay for what WE use). We say we support 25 Gb of transfer, that’s what we offer. If you use 25 Gb, so be it. The last Gb you use will be just as fast (blazing) as the first Gb used. If you use more, you pay extra for it. Plain and simple.
We also could oversubscribes our disk space (as all other hosts do), but because of our architecture (NetApp’s etc.), there is no way we can do this either.
So, bottom line, while your host may oversubscribes its services, you can rest assured Powweb does not oversubscribes ours.[mB]~monkey_king [Good Server Admin]
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08-12-2002, 07:28 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by MTG
So why don't you add a notice that you oversell in your website???Professor of crime at St Andrews university.
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08-12-2002, 07:50 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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Notice: While we hope and pray that you do not come close to using one tenth of what we offer, we will stand by that offer.
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08-12-2002, 11:15 PM #11Aspiring Evangelist
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mr monkey,
I don't think you should use AOL as an example, it wasn't too long ago that AOL was the victim of busy signals by their 'oversubscribing'
Originally posted by mr monkey
First, the term you are looking for is “oversubscribes”.
Let’s get some things straight. Powweb oversubscribes like AOL or Eart***** or ANY company that provides limited services to customers. Think AOL has 20,000,000 modems attached to the Internet? Try 1/10 that # and your a bit closer. Get the point?
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08-12-2002, 11:18 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by avara
They are overselling dramatically is how it works. Most hosts oversell to an extent, but once you oversell this dramatically, it's easy to run in to problems.
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08-12-2002, 11:27 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
which opens up space for new monkeys on their boxes...
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08-12-2002, 11:30 PM #14Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by mr monkey
Everyone "oversells". Any host that says they do not is lying (plain and simple).
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08-13-2002, 12:26 AM #15Junior Guru Wannabe
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I use Powweb!!!!!!
I have switched hosts 3 times. First I was hosted by rackshack. They were fast but didn't support anything. All I had at my disposal was perl cgi and frontpage extensions. From there one of my friends told me about readyhosting. www.readyhosting.com...... and let me put it to you this way... THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Horrible customer service and their php support was sketchy at best.
THEN COMES POWWEB!!!!!!!! Powweb is hands down the best host!!! It is fast!!! PHP supports all extensions inculded the gd graphics library. MySQL only costs $30 to set up. You get as much MySQL space until you fill up your 250 mb. Some hosts limit your mysql storage(readyhosting). Powweb absolutly has the best support network EVER!!!!!!! I have asked dozens of questions and all were answered the very next day. There is a user support forum for even faster answers. Most within a few hours depending on when you ask.
Oh YEAH!!! I fogot to mention their 30 day money back guarentee. It they really refund all your money. Before I went to readyhosting I had powweb for about 2 weeks. But I wanted to use Cold Fusion.... so regretffuly I switch to readyhosting..... after being severly disapointed by them I came back to powweb!!! And I will never leave again! Anyways they had refunded all my money with a week.
Powweb is really a great host.Last edited by JClawson; 08-13-2002 at 01:18 PM.
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08-13-2002, 12:39 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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I know a few happy customers with powweb as well, and they've been around a long time so they obviously have some concept of what their doing
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08-13-2002, 01:19 AM #17Junior Guru
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I know much more unhappy customers with powweb, and they've been around a looooooooooooong time so they obviously have some concept of what their doing
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08-13-2002, 03:14 AM #18Web Hosting God
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Re: I use Powweb!!!!!!
Originally posted by JClawson
I have switched hosts 3 times. First I was hosted by rackshack. They were fast but didn't support anything. All I had at my disposal was perl cgi and frontpage extensions. From there one of my friends told me about readyhosting. www.readyhosting.com...... and let me put it to you this way... THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Horrible customer service and their php support was sketchy at best.
THEN COMES POWWEB!!!!!!!! Powweb is hands down the best host!!! It is fast!!! PHP supports all extensions inculded the gd graphics library. MySQL only costs $30 to set up. You get as much MySQL space until you fill up your 250 mb. Some hosts limit your mysql storage(readyhosting). Powweb absolutly has the best support network EVER!!!!!!! I have asked dozens of questions and all were answered the very next day. There is a user support forum for even faster answers. Most within a few hours depending on when you ask.
Oh YEAH!!! I fogot to mention their 30 day money back guarentee. It they really refund all your money. Before I went to readyhosting I had powweb for about 2 weeks. But I wanted to use Cold Fusion.... so regretffuly I switch to readyhosting..... after being severly disapointed by them I came back to powweb!!! And I will never leave again! Anyways they had refunded all my money with a week.
SO GET HOSTED AT POWWEB!!!!!!!!!!
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08-13-2002, 01:42 PM #19Junior Guru Wannabe
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sorry......
I really wasn't trying to spam.... just got carried away.
In my experience Powweb can't be beat. I am always open to better hosts. But after my experience with readyhosting.... I am very skeptical. Lots of places say they support alot of things but this has 2 downfalls.
1) Ususally they try to set up alot of stuff but don't configure it properly.
2) They have so many different things running that it bogs down the cpu.
With powweb, they only have 1 hosting package and only support php, mysql, cgi, and frontpage extensions. This frees them from any of those problems.
If you think you have a better host.... that costs relativly just as much... and supports everything powweb does, I would consider switching or at least giving them a try.
I took a look at hostnexus.... They seem fast. I pinged the server and got 32ms. Powweb is 60ms. For now, powweb is perfect for me. Its dirt cheap and provides great services that I need.
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08-13-2002, 02:11 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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With powweb, they only have 1 hosting package and only support php, mysql, cgi, and frontpage extensions. This frees them from any of those problems.
It's all marketting, if done properly there's no benefit to one package over many.
Sincerely,
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08-13-2002, 03:46 PM #21Junior Guru Wannabe
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yes you are right
You are right. Powweb does exactly this. Its having only one package that makes organizing higher used sites easier. Therefore they are able to cut down costs which is good.
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08-13-2002, 11:49 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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Re: yes you are right
Originally posted by JClawson
You are right. Powweb does exactly this. Its having only one package that makes organizing higher used sites easier. Therefore they are able to cut down costs which is good.
The advantage to this is they know which users are gonna need the resources so they can balance accordingly. With only one package, they have no idea if someone will use 500mb or 25gigs.
I agree that some people that use 500mbs will buy a bigger package than they need, but the generally, the need for resources will be quite apparent-Chris
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08-14-2002, 03:25 PM #23Nerf Herder
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Originally posted by mr monkey
Everyone "oversells". Any host that says they do not is lying (plain and simple).
At Powweb, we manage our servers extremely efficiently. Just ask around in our own forums, http://forum.powweb.com and see.Like passive recurring revenue you can retire on?
You focus on building your brand, we handle all support, billing, and more.
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08-14-2002, 09:04 PM #24Web Hosting Guru
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I have about 10 customers with PowWeb and haven't heard any complaints.
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08-14-2002, 09:25 PM #25Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by mr monkey
Everyone "oversells". Any host that says they do not is lying (plain and simple).dotGig
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