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Old 10-11-2007, 09:13 PM
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Plesk vs. C-Panel / Control Panel?


As discussed in this thread, I indicated that I've basically been using my webhosting company as "file storage".

1) I create all my files in .html using notepad

2) My files are limited to .html, .jpg, .gif, (and a couple of .js and .css) files.

3) My domain is not connected with my webhost; I use the nameserver zoneedit.com and I use URL forwarding and mask/cloak the domain the address bar (using multiple domains) as follows:

domain1.com --> forwards to http://123.456.78/domain1

domain2.com --> forwards to http://123.456.78/domain2

domain3.com --> forwards to http://123.456.78/domain3

4) For uploading files, I go to ftp://123.456.78 and drop/drag/copy/paste files into the window using my browser

5) I'm able to password protect the subdirectories as I choose.

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I called my webhost, Hostik, and told them that I was unable to do anything on my web console. I can't change a password, create a user, or even access my usage/bandwidth quotas.

They told me that I'm on an "old server" using the windows-based console (probably C-Panel / Control Panel) and they're in the process over the next three months of transfering everyone over to "Plesk".

So, they set me up with a new Plesk account, while keeping the old one in place, so that I could move/transfer my files to the Plesk account.

When I went to Plesk, I realized things are not the same:

1) In my Control Panel / C-Panel, I had a unique IP URL Address - http://123.456.78

2) In Plesk, it seems there's a set IP URL Address - http://78.654.321 - that everyone shares.

3) I was told that in Plesk, many people use that IP URL address and that I'm supposed to place my files into the "httpdocs" folder.

Appearently, this is a system of shared hosting whereby many people have the same IP URL address (different from what I had before) and it recognizes each account by the login or something, so the "httpdocs" folder would identify my domain.

I was then told that in Plesk, I must have my domain affixed to the Plesk account.

In other words, I can no longer do what I was doing before, having my domain separated in another location and using URL forwarding from an outside nameserver.

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So, my original question is what's the difference between Plesk vs. C-Panel/Control Panel?

Perhaps I answered most of it above.

Is it correct that I can't do things the way I've been doing them so far if that's the case?

It might be that Plesk is not for me and I may need to find a host that gives me my own unique IP URL Address. However, I was informed that not many companies are doing that as most are switching over to Plesk.

In addition, Hostik does not offer multiple domains.

In response to this thread, David recommended I try synhosting.com

synhosting.com has "Multiple Websites". I assume this means mulitiple domains. Correct?

What's my best option at this point?

1) Find a host that has C-Panel / Control Panel (if any there are)?

2) Use a service such as synhosting.com and move all my domains over to them?

3) If I do use synhosting.com, am I required to move my domains over to their nameservers?

4) I have my MX Mail records pointing to Fastmail.fm for my email virtual domains. Would I still be able to do this if my domain is dedicated to a webhost and opt not to use their email feature?

5) Should I get rid of this old-school thought of using my web host as "file storage" and stop this practice of using URL forwarding and cloaking?

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Old 11-02-2007, 02:59 PM
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A control panel is just a control panel. They both pretty much do the same thing but is presented to you in a different way. I do not mind Plesk but think it does lack some of the necessary features. I ran into one problem with Plesk where it does not give a hard quota on diskspace and i'm not really sure about bandwidth when it comes to a hard quota. A control just tells your server what to do kind of like Microsoft Windows that your probably using as your personal computer.

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Old 11-02-2007, 06:31 PM
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Plesk/cPanel/DirectAdmin!!!

All Control Panel it`s good but it`s diferent if a person like Plesk or cPanel or Direct Admin.

Plesk it`s a complex control panel with all .

cPanel it`s folk .


I like all 3 control panel used !

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Old 11-03-2007, 05:38 AM
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DotNetPanel for Windows servers is great

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Old 11-16-2007, 05:50 PM
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Most hosting providers can issue you a sub domain (yourname.yourwebhost.com). This may solve your problem.

You may also want to check with your registrar, most of them have advanced name service solutions that would allow you to create and point a sub domain of domain you own (yourname.yourdomain.com).

Either of these solutions may work for you. If you have any questions you can always ask me.

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Old 11-17-2007, 02:48 PM
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cpanel for unix and plesk for windows, just the bests

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:14 AM
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Well youve posted this in the WIndows section..so I assume your running CPanel Beta for Windows? Would love to know how its working out and how different its from the Linux CPanel....

No wait, it seems your asking the difference..well as of now Windows CPanel doesnt exist (besides being beta tested)...so for Windows...stick to Plesk til CPanel for Windows comes out

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Old 11-18-2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wf19 View Post

So, they set me up with a new Plesk account, while keeping the old one in place, so that I could move/transfer my files to the Plesk account.

When I went to Plesk, I realized things are not the same:

1) In my Control Panel / C-Panel, I had a unique IP URL Address - http://123.456.78

2) In Plesk, it seems there's a set IP URL Address - http://78.654.321 - that everyone shares.
This is called hosting using "host headers", basically the web server loads the correct website based on the domain name rather than the IP address. If you don't like this method then your hosting provider should be able to sell you static IP addresses for each of the sites your want to host for a small additional fee.

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3) I was told that in Plesk, many people use that IP URL address and that I'm supposed to place my files into the "httpdocs" folder.

Appearently, this is a system of shared hosting whereby many people have the same IP URL address (different from what I had before) and it recognizes each account by the login or something, so the "httpdocs" folder would identify my domain.

I was then told that in Plesk, I must have my domain affixed to the Plesk account.

In other words, I can no longer do what I was doing before, having my domain separated in another location and using URL forwarding from an outside nameserver.
I don't know plesk but in DotNetPanel (as recommend by another response) you can configure your domains in the CP and host the DNS elsewhere, as long as you correctly point the domains "A" records to the servers IP (Not a redirect like you have been doing) then the host will still be able to use the host header to show the site. otherwise get an IP for total control.

BTW your method of redirecting domains to the IP (Cloaked redirect with a frameset I assume) is not a very good idea for all sorts of reasons not least search engine placement and listing.

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So, my original question is what's the difference between Plesk vs. C-Panel/Control Panel?

Perhaps I answered most of it above.

Is it correct that I can't do things the way I've been doing them so far if that's the case?

It might be that Plesk is not for me and I may need to find a host that gives me my own unique IP URL Address. However, I was informed that not many companies are doing that as most are switching over to Plesk.

In addition, Hostik does not offer multiple domains.
I good host should be able to easily offer you an unlimited domain / site plan.

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What's my best option at this point?

1) Find a host that has C-Panel / Control Panel (if any there are)?
cpanel is more or less Linux only unless you look at the recent beta (Which looks pretty naff IMHO), go for DotnetPanel, its a great Windows control panel.

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2) move all my domains to another host?
Might be an idea...

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4) I have my MX Mail records pointing to Fastmail.fm for my email virtual domains. Would I still be able to do this if my domain is dedicated to a webhost and opt not to use their email feature?
If you choose the right Host.

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5) Should I get rid of this old-school thought of using my web host as "file storage" and stop this practice of using URL forwarding and cloaking?
Its not a bad idea to separate your DNS from your hosting but can complicate things, if your hosts control panel can handle complex DNS setups then why not keep things simple. As I said your forwarding / cloaking method is really not recommended. Most DNS hosts should allow you to simply point the A record of the domains to the correct IP address. Which is exactly what your host does anyway.

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