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Old 09-03-2007, 10:23 AM
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Dedicated Virtual Server vs Regular Dedicated?


Sorry to be a newbie but

What is the difference between Dedicated Virtual vs Regular Dedicated Server?

Also what are the pros and cons of going with Virtual?

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Old 09-03-2007, 10:59 AM
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In a VPS, you are not alone in the physical server. There are other people too sharing the server resources, but you will get the resources for which you are paying.
In a dedicated server, you have the full cpu power or memory.
If you have budget it is always better to go for a dedicated server. In a vps environment, there is chance that you may get affected, when another vps in the same node is getting ddosed or overloaded very much.

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Old 09-03-2007, 11:05 AM
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thanks matt

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Old 09-03-2007, 11:12 AM
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In a VPS, you are not alone in the physical server. There are other people too sharing the server resources, but you will get the resources for which you are paying.
In a dedicated server, you have the full cpu power or memory.
If you have budget it is always better to go for a dedicated server. In a vps environment, there is chance that you may get affected, when another vps in the same node is getting ddosed or overloaded very much.
If a DDOS occurs, it wouldn't just affect Virtual servers on the same node, it would affect a lot of the servers in a network. So saying a DDOS is going to affect VPS's differently is not completely accurate. A DDOS, in most cases, is going to overload the routers, which is going to cause issues for multiple servers not just one, so even if you had a dedicated server and a DDOS occured you would still be affected by your neighbors.

There are different companies offering different virtual server solutions. One solution is equal share, meaning everyone on the server has equal access to the CPU, another way is dedicated CPU, meaning everyone has their own dedicated portion of CPU therefore others usage will not affects yours. Equal share is good for bursts while dedicated, of course, is good for consistent usage.

While dedicated can be better, it usually isn't for the same price. If you were going to buy a dedicated for $50, and a VPS for $50 you would see clear advantages. For example, a dedicated for $50 would most likely be a celeron and one hard drive while a VPS would usually have access to multiple Xeon/Opteron processors and a RAID setup for reliability and performance.

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Old 09-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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It also depends on your use as well as which scalability you would like to achieve.
Generally try to go for a VPS with guaranteed ressources as well as upgradable ressources.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:30 PM
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While dedicated can be better, it usually isn't for the same price. If you were going to buy a dedicated for $50, and a VPS for $50 you would see clear advantages. For example, a dedicated for $50 would most likely be a celeron and one hard drive while a VPS would usually have access to multiple Xeon/Opteron processors and a RAID setup for reliability and performance.
Very true comment. I can't agree more.

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Old 09-03-2007, 01:34 PM
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Very true comment. I can't agree more.

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So are you saying vps is better than dedicated?

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Old 09-03-2007, 01:41 PM
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So are you saying vps is better than dedicated?
Comparing the performance of a VPS (on a good server with RAID, etc) to an entry level server, yes without a doubt. You can't compare the two really as when on a custom built machine your benefiting from components carefully thought out and tested (for performance) compared to a Celeron or whatever it may be which is using basic components (IDE drives for example). You may get more Bandwidth and Disk Space on a dedicated server but if your looking for better performance you need to consider the key differences of the server(s).

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Old 09-03-2007, 09:05 PM
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If a DDOS occurs, it wouldn't just affect Virtual servers on the same node, it would affect a lot of the servers in a network. So saying a DDOS is going to affect VPS's differently is not completely accurate. A DDOS, in most cases, is going to overload the routers, which is going to cause issues for multiple servers not just one, so even if you had a dedicated server and a DDOS occured you would still be affected by your neighbors.

There are different companies offering different virtual server solutions. One solution is equal share, meaning everyone on the server has equal access to the CPU, another way is dedicated CPU, meaning everyone has their own dedicated portion of CPU therefore others usage will not affects yours. Equal share is good for bursts while dedicated, of course, is good for consistent usage.

While dedicated can be better, it usually isn't for the same price. If you were going to buy a dedicated for $50, and a VPS for $50 you would see clear advantages. For example, a dedicated for $50 would most likely be a celeron and one hard drive while a VPS would usually have access to multiple Xeon/Opteron processors and a RAID setup for reliability and performance.
Regarding the DDoS part, most DDoSes these days are not of a huge impact to the network, rather mostly kiddies trying to exact a revenge without sufficient resources. If will result in the server null routed most of the time, so it may affect the server and the server only.

As for the dedicated vs. VPS part, I truly agree. Entry level servers cannot even match their VPS price equivalents.

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