Looking for help choosing a host to move from current one
Hello everybody, new here.
I searched a bit around and have found some ideas on a couple of hosts to avoid or to check out etc.
However, as it is such an important decision I decided to open a new thread.
I have certain needs which my current host somewhat doesn't support well. I am with one of those big known hosting services, less than $10/month.
I am willing to pay around $20/mo as long as I am guaranteed that my website will be well taken care of/supported. I run a graphics community which usally gets around 15 - 20 ppl online at the same time, and around 60 reg members visiting the forum daily, w/o counting all crawlers and guests.
My main problem with the current host is, you guessed it, CPU overloads as I am on a shared server. I need a host that can better serve me for the forum. I dont usually get cpu errors daily, so thats good. But it annoys me to get the cpu errors when I am backing up the database. -_-
Another thing I don't like about my current hosting service is that nowhere on the TOS can I find any reference to their cpu limits/regulations. >_>
However, one thing I do like, is the fact that they limit it but I am usually able to get back to the forum within a minute.So I am not down for long periods of time and the fact that they haven't suspended my account. I have read that some host simply suspend/shut down ur site for consuming resources even if it was out of ur control or without even a notice. >_> So I don't want one of those hosts.
My preferred specs:
My host shows I have 2316.77 used on disk space. Which I think is what, 2gb?
Bandwidth: Over 24gb
Email Accounts: At least 50
I need to mass email my forum members so I need a host that wont limit this function, Currently they say limit 50 emails. But I have over 1k members so how does that work? Guess only 50 ppl get the email? o.O I am confused.
Support for php 4.4.7
Free database backups
Cpanel preferred but not required, could be some other nice control panel
Around 10 sub domains
Would prefer monthly instead of yearly unless is a very solid/reliable host
Support 24/7 including live chat (or highly preferred)
Clear specs about CPU limits/regulations or preferably a hosting service that can cover the forum software and wont trigger those cpu errors.
Should be ok with us having either a chat script (dont have one but just in case) or a modification which allows u to access irc by java.
I am confused about cpu and transfer data. Is transfer data same as bandwidth?
What is a good margin for cpu/resources limitations?
Windows or Linux? I think Linux since im running php application?
Clustered hosting? Unfamiliar with this? Do i need, would it support my needs better?
I can only really afford up to $20/month.
Any questions which could help you help me, feel free to ask.
Thank you for your time everyone.
Also, question, I have a domain which my current host provided.
What happens when I move to a dif host?
Quite a range of questions, I'll try to cover a few
As far as your domain name goes -- you'll need to doublecheck with your existing provider to see what will happen.
With most providers you'll just need to obtain an EPP/Auth. code & you can then easily transfer it to your new provider. I'd personally recommend setting it up with a 3rd party domain registrar like namecheap.com though, not with your new host!
In regards to operating system, you'll want to go with a Linix based provider. They tend to function much better overall & have a few better control panels -- as you referenced cPanel previously I'd recommend sticking with the same panel.
You'll be easily able to migrate your existing site to another cPanel system with minimal effort.
In regards to your CPU requirements, look for a provider that isn't offering 'insane' resources. With most providers with 'legitimate, realistic' resources, you'll have more room to 'burst' or increase your usage temporarily without getting suspended.
The beauty of being on a system with a bunch of other users who have minimal resources -- everyone isn't using very much so there's really 'more' to go around.
A few recommendations?
Well, I'd check into synhosting.com -- good company, great owner
Edit: sorry people, I didn't see your replies while typing!
> Is transfer data same as bandwidth?
Exactly. You use 24GB, and for growth, you may want to get around 40 GB.
> What is a good margin for cpu/resources limitations?
What forum system are you using?
> Windows or Linux?
Linux for PHP, windows for ASP.
> Clustered hosting?
Well, not yet Not necessary.
> What happens when I move to a dif host?
Normally, you should be able to change your DNS addresses for the domain and point to the new host. Your company shouldn't create problems for that. I suggest never buy domain and hosting from the same guys, because some people don't give you your domain if you change your host.
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To be honest, a clustered solution would potentially offer higher uptime but I doubt it would solve any CPU related issues.
It depends on how the cluster is set up. "Clusters" do not equate to better performance or higher reliability, and in fact can spell disaster as often clusters are setup inproperly and introduce more single points-of-failure.
See, am I blind or synhosting.com/termsofservice.php doesnt say anything about cpu/resources limits?
I don't want to be surprised later, would rather have a hosting service which covers all their limitation on their TOS so you have no surprises later.
But thank you for the recommendation, I guess I can always contact them but is somewhat quicker to check their TOS for these type of details.
EDIT: closest thing i found was: G) The use of IRC software, BitTorrent software, Proxy software, and automated "bots" is strictly prohibited. The use of some forums and any other multiuser chat software which could create a high load on our servers, disrupt other users, and/or attract Denial of Service attacks is also prohibited. SYN Hosting will deal with any of these issues on a case by case basis, and will attempt to work with client to resolve the issue to both parties satisfaction.
which I guess doesnt work for me.
I have some of his predicaments as well webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=622188
"the total of all entries within a 60 second period of time should not be greater than 40 seconds and one single query should not take more than 30 seconds"
Mass email is for very important updates which want to be announced to those who haven't visited the website as well, to all members. Usually I do this once a month.
I am just still not sure of what to ask a host or when i read their tos on CPU.
For instance, I saw hosticananswers.com/questions/101/
The customer must not:
Use 25% or more of system resources for longer then 90 seconds. Applications include: FTP, PHP, HTTP, CGI, PERL, and others.
File sharing on the HostICan network is forbidden, this includes peer-to-peer actives.
Run any sort of software that interfaces with an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network.
Run any stand-alone, unattended server-side processes at any point in time on the server.
This includes any and all daemons, such as IRCD.
Run CRON entries with intervals of less than 15 minutes
a) I don't understand what that limit is, like what it translates to, yes I am a noob like that. XD
b) File sharing? Does that mean any downloads offered on the site/forum?
c) I have a mod installed that allows us to connect to irc by using Java.
d) I have a cron task running every hour.
This is just for example, but if most shared hosts out there work the same way... T_T what do I do?
@hanber - my current is shared with a well known host and doesnt work too well. :/
I see at my host server status: Server Load 7.07 (2 cpus), well actually refreshed and is 9.93 (2 cpus)
You might want to check out asmallorange.com. I've been using them now for about a week now after leaving a larger hosting company myself, and have been very impressed thus far.
One thing I noticed that you mentioned is a java IRC client. As long as you are simply using a java client to connect to an existing IRC network elsewhere (ie, a java client to connect to EfNet), I can't imagine a host blocking that, as it really doesn't connect to their server at all. I think you would be fine on this with any of the hosts you mentioned.