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07-03-2002, 09:01 AM #1Disabled
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Problem with Godaddy
Question :
AMHow i can do modification in name servers, if your site i mean
godaddy site is not coming in Pakistan ?
Answer :
Dear Munawar Hussain,
We have blocked Pakistan due to it being a known Terrorist-friendly state. This is per request of the United States Government, which we comply with. Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Visit our web forum for information that may answer some of your questions at:
Supportwebsite.com
Sincerely,
Nate J.
Customer Care Representative
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What they want to do after hiding godaddy site, and how godaddy registered users will work , does this site blocking will stop terriroism, if yes then how ? many other doamin registeretaion sites coming in Paksitan, in my opinion only this way give trouble to registered users. what do you say ?
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07-03-2002, 09:17 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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Wow! Go USA! Finally the US government taking some action to prevent the spread of cyber crimes in pakistan.
So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know?" And he says, 'Oh, there won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.' So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." --Bill Murray Caddyshack
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07-03-2002, 09:26 AM #3Disabled
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Got another reply from godaddy
Dear Munawar Hussain,
Please excuse me, however I was mistaken about the reason of blocking Pakistan - it's blocked due to a high occurance of fraud. The only reasons we block countries is due to fraud or being terrorist-friendly. Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Visit our web forum for information that may answer some of your questions at:
Supportwebsite.com
Sincerely,
Nate J.
Customer Care Representative
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07-03-2002, 09:28 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Damn fraudie terrorists!
So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know?" And he says, 'Oh, there won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.' So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." --Bill Murray Caddyshack
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07-03-2002, 10:18 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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>>We have blocked Pakistan
I love it when Americans block developing contries - more customers for me!
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07-03-2002, 11:37 AM #6Disabled
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damn, that wasn't a nice reply from GoDaddy. Well, maybe there are fraud problems but other people will suffer due to that. Ask them if the blockage will be removed in the near future or not.
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07-09-2002, 06:38 AM #7Disabled
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The representative Nate J. did not even know what she was talking about.
It was a racist comment to just blindly say without even knowing that you are from a terrorist country and therefore we dont wanna do business with u.
Then she comes back the real reason. Many of the shopping sites are also not letting pakistani ips use credit cards. It is a fact that many people steal credit cards in pakistan and get away with it easy so this was a good decision not to let the whole population use it unless the government puts strict rules for credit card theft. out there.
Why dont u file a legal law suit against This customer care rep. ? i am sure u can win the case due to the racist remarks.
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07-09-2002, 06:56 AM #8Aspiring Evangelist
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Originally posted by SalmanKhana
The representative Nate J. did not even know what she was talking about.
It was a racist comment to just blindly say without even knowing that you are from a terrorist country and therefore we dont wanna do business with u.
Then she comes back the real reason. Many of the shopping sites are also not letting pakistani ips use credit cards. It is a fact that many people steal credit cards in pakistan and get away with it easy so this was a good decision not to let the whole population use it unless the government puts strict rules for credit card theft. out there.
Why dont u file a legal law suit against This customer care rep. ? i am sure u can win the case due to the racist remarks.
Nate J was just using a canned message.Luke
oh yeah...
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07-10-2002, 04:51 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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abu Ali
Why bother argueing - just get another registrar
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www.DirectI.com
Star Gate is also nice, but WHT blockes their URL here.
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07-10-2002, 06:49 AM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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07-11-2002, 06:40 PM #11Web Hosting Evangelist
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I think it was a good move by GoDaddy, no offence, but it is true that a very high level of fraud comes from Pakistan. I personally have had a lot of 'orders' from so called businesses in Pakistan only to find the credit card doesnt pass our payment gateway fraud system.
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07-11-2002, 07:29 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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Hussain, how do they expect you to make nameserver modifications, and other domain specific tasks, that must be done through their control panel?
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07-11-2002, 08:11 PM #13Web Hosting Evangelist
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I cant believe I just read that!
Does that mean the USA government will ask godaddy to stop registering domain for Irish (IRA), Spain (ETA) and every other country that has a terrorist war going on?..Or is it just the enemy countries of America??
I dont want to turn this into a political discussion but I wouldnt take that sitting down!
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07-11-2002, 08:33 PM #14Web Hosting Evangelist
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Email GoDaddy or Mr Bush for the answer to that.
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07-11-2002, 08:55 PM #15Disabled
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more customers for others i guess.
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07-11-2002, 09:25 PM #16Web Hosting Evangelist
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I will....Is his email still georgebush@hotmail.com? The last I heard he changed to Yahoo! Its so hard to keep track of him these days
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07-12-2002, 02:01 PM #17Web Hosting Guru
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Try GeeDubya@aol.com.
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07-12-2002, 08:06 PM #18Registered User
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Godaddy are racists!
It seems like a large group of Americans are now racists because of what happened September 11th.
Well, have I got news for you: Not all Pakistans/Afghanistans/Whatever are terrorists!
Geez, that poor guy could just sue Godaddy's ass if he wanted too.
And for the record: I'm not from the middle east, I'm from Sweden.
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07-12-2002, 08:18 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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There are plenty of domain registrars out here - you don't have to do business with any one of us if you don't like our policies or practices.
When you operate at such a low margin as GoDaddy does, you cannot afford any fraud. It does not surprise me that they are blocking whole countries where fraud is an issue.
We get a significant number of fraudulent transactions a month, and though we get the domain names back, they are rarely anything interesting for us to resell - so we basically eat the fraud costs.
We have talked about blocking access to our ordering pages from a number of IP blocks in order to cut our fraud losses. We may still do so at some point, but I do understand where GoDaddy are coming from.
It's very difficult to prosecute credit card fraud outside of the US, and the perps know it and take advantage of it.
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07-12-2002, 08:23 PM #20Registered User
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thewitt,
Yeah right, as if you get more frauds from countries like Pakistan than the US. Who are you trying to fool?
I don't mean to sound rude, but that is just a pathetic excuse.
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07-12-2002, 08:53 PM #21Web Hosting Evangelist
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Arent there other security measures godaddy can take to prevent fraud instead of blocking all orders from a single country?
The fact of the matter is they said in their email that they were complying with US law and not selling domains to "Terrorist Friendly" nations.
That is discriminating against a race. That is Racism!
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07-12-2002, 11:03 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by andiegirl
Yeah right, as if you get more frauds from countries like Pakistan than the US. Who are you trying to fool?
I don't mean to sound rude, but that is just a pathetic excuse.
The IP addresses for the last 6 months of fraudulent orders map primarily to Indonesia, Pakistan and Turkey.
I'm sorry if this offends you.
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07-12-2002, 11:06 PM #23Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Eurofficial
The fact of the matter is they said in their email that they were complying with US law and not selling domains to "Terrorist Friendly" nations.
It's much more likely they are responding to a high frequency of fraudulent credit card orders than any US government edict to block Pakistan. I'm purely speculating however - they may indeed have been asked to block certain nations, however we have not been asked anything similar.
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07-12-2002, 11:56 PM #24Junior Guru Wannabe
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Actually, if you read all the messages, you'll see they sent a follow-up message stating they don't sell to Pakistan because of fraud:
Dear Munawar Hussain,
Please excuse me, however I was mistaken about the reason of blocking Pakistan - it's blocked due to a high occurance of fraud. The only reasons we block countries is due to fraud or being terrorist-friendly. Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Visit our web forum for information...
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07-13-2002, 12:03 AM #25Junior Guru Wannabe
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Here's some more up-to-date information about the U.S. and economic sanctions. They do sometimes limit what countries U.S. businesses can deal with.
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforce...ons/index.htmlLast edited by adland II; 07-13-2002 at 12:10 AM.