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Is anyone on (mt)'s GridServer and want to share their experiences so far? Does it work as well as it's supposed to?
I'm looking into moving a mysql intensive account to a new location, and mediatemple seemed like it might be a good alternative to a low level VPS (especially I mainly just need powerful MySQL)
Thanks in advance
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05-06-2007, 11:15 PM
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I'm not with MT nor have ever been (far from it, I'm my own host), but I have friends who are.
The main issue with MT is that, in the past months, they have been quite unreliable. They're probably using extremely unstable software to power their network and the whole "grid" thing.
Consider also that they promise quite a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Odds are that they are overselling their services a lot, so you might not get that great MySQL performance that you need.
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05-06-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by paulius
I'm not with MT nor have ever been (far from it, I'm my own host), but I have friends who are.
The main issue with MT is that, in the past months, they have been quite unreliable. They're probably using extremely unstable software to power their network and the whole "grid" thing.
Consider also that they promise quite a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Odds are that they are overselling their services a lot, so you might not get that great MySQL performance that you need.
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Ah yes, the overselling demon strikes again!
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05-06-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gene Steinberg
Ah yes, the overselling demon strikes again!
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I meant crazy overselling. I understand that most hosts out there oversell...
Am I the only guy in here who believes in good old-school honest and non-oversold hosting?
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05-06-2007, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paulius
I meant crazy overselling. I understand that most hosts out there oversell...
Am I the only guy in here who believes in good old-school honest and non-oversold hosting?
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So-called overselling, which is no different than what your wireless phone provider or cable ISP presents, is a good way to offer a lot of storage and bandwidth for the money.
The only issue here is when a host stuffs too many clients on a server and everyone suffers. That doesn't necessarily reflect the overall total storage and bandwidth promised in the ads, but what each site actually requires, which is generally far different.
Obviously, if you're not getting good performance from a host, you go elsewhere.
So-called non-overselling on a shared server simply means you'll pay a lot more than you need to if your needs are beyond the basics.
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05-07-2007, 12:16 AM
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You gotta love it here. First thing when someone asks about a host is how bad they oversell and how hosting company is always the first to respond when someone is looking for a review on another host.
I would suggest you wait on some reviews from actual clients of them, before you go off believing how bad they are overselling.
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05-07-2007, 12:24 AM
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how hosting company is always the first to respond
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I'm sorry man, I'm not soliciting anything here. I don't even have a public hosting company.
I guess I'll return to the dedicated server forums. Was just trying to be helpful and share my knowledge of what I knew about MediaTemple.
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05-07-2007, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadEnd
You gotta love it here. First thing when someone asks about a host is how bad they oversell and how hosting company is always the first to respond when someone is looking for a review on another host.
I would suggest you wait on some reviews from actual clients of them, before you go off believing how bad they are overselling.
Lane
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Yeah...
So, again, does anyone have any experience with MT?
I'm okay with overselling as long as it doesn't impact performance, I have about half a dozen hosting accounts and they're all on oversold hosts with no problems.
Thanks again
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05-07-2007, 12:24 AM
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So-called non-overselling on a shared server simply means you'll pay a lot more than you need to if your needs are beyond the basics.
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Yup - agreed - but, if your requirements are beyound the basics, it will cost you less to be in an undersold environment
so, to the original posters question - packages offered by companies like mediatemple are probably not appropriate for you if you have a very mysql intensive site. Either look for a provider with much more expensive shared hosting packages (ie ALOT less space and bandwidth for the money) or look to a more dedicated solution (ie VPS or Dedicated).
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You gotta love it here. First thing when someone asks about a host is how bad they oversell and how hosting company is always the first to respond when someone is looking for a review on another host.
I would suggest you wait on some reviews from actual clients of them, before you go off believing how bad they are overselling.
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LOL - well, nothing wrong with a provider responding (this board has alot of providers) as long as the response is objective and provides some value.
As for feedback from users - may I request a quick search, this host has been discussed alot..
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search...archid=2374124
Hope this helps...
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05-07-2007, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by paulius
I'm sorry man, I'm not soliciting anything here. I don't even have a public hosting company.
I guess I'll return to the dedicated server forums. Was just trying to be helpful and share my knowledge of what I knew about MediaTemple.
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By no means was that a personal shot at you. I was speaking in general. Please don't take it personal. Just anymore it seams that it is nothing but dog eat dog here with everyone telling each other how much better they are than each other.
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05-07-2007, 12:31 AM
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I'm okay with overselling as long as it doesn't impact performance, I have about half a dozen hosting accounts and they're all on oversold hosts with no problems.
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Really - may I ask which of these oversold hosts had a problem with this site and how many resources you actually use which necessitates a move to a different location?
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I'm looking into moving a mysql intensive account to a new location, and mediatemple seemed like it might be a good alternative to a low level VPS (especially I mainly just need powerful MySQL)
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05-07-2007, 12:33 AM
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By no means was that a personal shot at you. I was speaking in general. Please don't take it personal. Just anymore it seams that it is nothing but dog eat dog here with everyone telling each other how much better they are than each other.
Lane
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Hi Lane, some of us could care less about any business from this forum (and probably get zero or close to zero business from this forum) and simply post here to try and bring some sanity to this business - especially as its conducted on WHT 
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05-07-2007, 12:39 AM
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Really - may I ask which of these oversold hosts had a problem with this site and how many resources you actually use which necessitates a move to a different location?
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None. It's a new project for a huge client.
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05-07-2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ThirstyGrunt
None. It's a new project for a huge client.
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My apologies, I believe I misunderstood this statement:
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I'm looking into moving a mysql intensive account to a new location
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If you are certain this project will not work in a shared environment (oversold or not) - you may want to contact MT about their dedicated mysql containers - personally, I am not sure this is a good fit - but, do your research here as this topic has been discussed and contact them for some sample sites maybe where you can test performance... If you really think this site will be that heavy, a VPS or dedicated is probably the way to go.
if this is a "huge" client, they should have no issue allocating a proper budget towards a managed and reliable dedicated environment.
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05-07-2007, 12:47 AM
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My apologies, I believe I misunderstood this statement:
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You didn't, I misspoke.
I believe that is what I will do, thank you for your advice
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