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    Another Site gets copied at the Expense of the Owners!

    I hate seeing sites get ripped of all the time...

    I was shown this one only today, Marty from HHQ ( Host Head Quarters ) is a good bloke and i have dealings with him, i know that he has been working with a designer on something special.

    And a few weeks back he showed it to me and i though it was a great site for his target market and thought it was designed to perfection.

    Today it was pointed out to me that it has been copied by t e r r a h o p.com
    obviously this Url/link has been banned for a good reason!

    It is sad to say that there are people looking over forums like this and grabbing designs and setting up shop with other peoples hard earned design.

    Even the prices are the same and meta tags, Just changed to US dollars i believe. The URLS are:

    t e r r a h o p.com ( Put the words together ) copied
    www.hostheadquarters.com

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    Choopy,

    Thanks for pointing that out to the people here. I am very mad, and have emailed them regarding this.

    I cant belive that I was talking to them about re - selling there domain names and was going to go with them because they were very helpful, then after checking my logs I found this hehe. They did remember to change the important things like the links to their merchants.

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    Hello,

    I'm the designer that made Marty's page. Although it's kind of flattering, it is extremely frusterating to have people copy and paste your hard work for their own use.

    But by doing this, t e r r a h o p pretty much ruined their chances of becoming a respected host, so that's punishment in and of itself.

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    YaR - Yet another rip
    This forum officially ****ing sucks
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    LOL they even left the GST information in there.

    All prices listed are inclusive of GST.

    I dont belive California has GST
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    LMAO
    This forum officially ****ing sucks
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    LOL

    we should really make a host blacklist... admin'd by a committee maybe. it'd be helpful.
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    My my, talk about a blatant rip. That's horrible....
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    OK,

    Ideas of where to go from here? I have emailed them and there providers, any other ideas?
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    I feel for you, man. Find out which DC they are in and report them.
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    Plus they resell names for Enom, you can't resell for them....
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    looks almost like a frame forward gosh these guys kow how to cover it up
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    Plus they resell names for Enom, you can't resell for them....

    You can resell domain names for enom.
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    That's just horrible to be blatantly copying someone's site like that and expecting not to be caught??? It doesn't take much to buy a template these days with all these templates selling on WHT, why not spend a couple bucks and get a template if you have limited design skills? There is no excuse to be settling to ripping off your competitors design.
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    Wow what a direct rip. Sorry that happened to you.
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    Block the links

    He is still linking to your site for images and css. Just block his access and he will have a very strange looking site.

    Not true as pointed out below....I dozed off for a moment.

    However, he was too lazy to change the names so shows his sources as hostheadquarters files.

    Preventive is to set so images can't be copied, but too late this time.
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    incognito He has them on his server in a directory called HostHeadquarters_files . He isn't hotlinking them.
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    How do you scan for these site rips?

    Hi,

    I agree this is very, very bad. What I want to know is how does one go about "policing" for those who rip one's site; i.e. what/where/how does one keep on the lookout for copy-cat sites that rip your design?


    Also, is it something that can be automated?


    Thanks,

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    Re: Block the links

    Originally posted by Incognito
    He is still linking to your site for images and css. Just block his access and he will have a very strange looking site.

    Following is part of the source from t e r r a h o p

    <link href="HostHeadquarters_files/styles.css" type="TEXT/CSS" rel="stylesheet">
    <title>T e r r a h o p Internet Services</title>

    <td background="HostHeadquarters_files/row1_bg.gif">

    src="HostHeadquarters_files/row1_logo.gif

    src="HostHeadquarters_files/row1_INDEX_splash.jpg

    Crooked and lazy....not a single image link is to an image on his site, all linked to hostheadquarters.
    LOL, he's used IE "save entire web page" option ... LOL ...
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    Wow! It only took them 6 days to rip it.
    http://www.hostheadquarters.com
    21/6/2002
    New Site Launched

    http://terrastupid.com
    27/6/2002
    New Site Launched
    what losers!
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    I know ***** ripped off everybody else, but they wouldn't do it to me.
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    Originally posted by ATST
    Wow! It only took them 6 days to rip it.
    http://www.hostheadquarters.com
    21/6/2002
    New Site Launched

    http://terrastupid.com
    27/6/2002
    New Site Launched
    what losers!
    I didnt know IE was that fast, at copying sites .. wow, i must catch up with technology
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    they didn't get around to copying the ToS Page..

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    ******** Internet Services 1541 Amador Street Crescent City, California 95531



    Support@********.com

    (707)954-1247
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    ah, that'd be funny.. take screenies of all the pages and then call them up... thats really sad to rip something and then stick up your contant info... 's like robbing a bank and leaving your business card.
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    LOL @ Business card ... or even your credit card. ..
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    How did you find out about it?
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    How did I find out about it

    After checking my webalaizer logs I found they had been on my site quite a bit, so I thought I would check it out.

    I still cant belive it!
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    Ok I have emailed them and the provider ... any other ideas ?????nothing is being linked so is makes it hard
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    I always feel the need to drop in and write these people nasty letters. Is this the wrong thing to do?
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    t e r r a h o p ..... YOU SUX PEOPLE...

    I'm really about this fu*cking people doing this fu*cking things all the time...

    ******** su*ckers!!
    and people stupid like this... is SO stupid... that they have a <link href="HostHeadquarters_files/styles.css" type="TEXT/CSS" rel="stylesheet"> line in the code.... what a sucker!
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    Ben recently asked me at FWS when the domain was to be uncensored and the username unbanned. It was in 30 days or less. I'll let him know that his URL and username won't be unblocked until he stops ripping WHT member's sites. Best I can do for ya'.
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    Cheers chicken
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    Bravo to Chicken for telling that ex-user that!

    Your design, hostheadquarters.com, is awesome! It's really one of the best designs I've seen, and I'd be really pissed if I were you. It's also one of the most obvious rips I've seen.

    Solution: You have to keep trying various things until something works. I'm not good with traceroute but I took that addy to netcraft and it looks like they may be a customer of nodehosting or Time Warner. If it's nodehosting, they post here I believe.

    I would first call them and complain. Their phone number is listed on their site.

    If no results, then I'd find out their ISP and make sure you send a complaint to an address there that can help. Threaten them with a copyright lawsuit. Also send a copy to t**rahop.com.

    If no results then, keep trying other things until you succeed. Got a friend in the Crescent City, CA area? You might have them make a house call, but then again, the street address could be fake.

    Good Luck! ... and I'm sorry that happened to you.
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    Funny thing is that he didn't copy over the copyright notice

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    Pretty sad. Sorry to see it.
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    Can anyone tell who te**hop's host or ISP is? I don't know much about traceroutes, but the traceroute looked strange to me. I could not even see any names past hop 10; just numbers.

    Someone please post the host or ISP for te**hop.com.

    hostheadquarters.com... Let us know how it turns out.
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    We had the same thing happen last month. We saw there referrers in the logs, dummies uploaded to their server first, so it was easy to spot.

    We contacted them, told them to take it off, it was stolen. They responded that a college student was hired to do the work, we are embarressed. I gave them 1-week to take it down, nothing changed. I gave them a 48 hr notice or the consequences would not be in favor of their company. They did nothing, so I had already figured out who their server was with, got on the phone and told them to take care of business or we would. The site was changed within 24 hrs and fixed.

    It was a reseller for someone..

    Now last night I catch someone with our site loaded up in frontpage. I popped up live chat with him, hahaahah..

    I told em rippin sites was illegal, nothing came back, he left .. I guess it will show up somewhere else now..

    Ahh well.. Life on the Net
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    This sucks
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    omfg that sux man.

    makes me thinks twice about becoming a webdesigner in a years time. GRR
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