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01-27-2007, 04:04 PM #26Eternal Member
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01-27-2007, 04:09 PM #27Randy
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Originally Posted by tical
If your target audience is overseas and your streaming bitrate is >64kbps, you really do need QUALITY (by that I generally mean they DON'T advertise here on WHT) service in Europe with good local peering.Fast Serv Networks, LLC | AS29889 | DDOS Protected | Managed Cloud, Streaming, Dedicated Servers, Colo by-the-U
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01-27-2007, 05:45 PM #28Managed Hosting Expert
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I'm not too sure I agree on the definition of PTP's premium network:
traceroute to 82.163.112.1 (82.163.112.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 209.9.225.94 (209.9.225.94) [AS29944] 9.879 ms 0.237 ms 0.195 ms
2 TENGIGABIT-2-4.COLO1.ASH1.PULLTHEPLUG.COM (209.9.224.177) [AS29944] 0.265 ms 0.239 ms 0.220 ms
3 g0-4-na22.b003364-1.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.241.209) [AS174] 0.264 ms 0.336 ms 0.264 ms
4 v3494.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.41) [AS174] 0.750 ms 0.617 ms 0.653 ms
5 v3498.mpd01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.5) [AS174] 1.723 ms 1.290 ms 1.385 ms
6 t7-2.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.245) [AS174] 26.774 ms 66.914 ms 185.442 ms
7 t2-2.mpd02.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.42) [AS174] 83.786 ms 84.081 ms 83.375 ms
8 linx1.cr1-telhe-lon-uk.as15444.net (195.66.224.109) [AS5459] 86.375 ms 86.168 ms 86.571 ms
9 82.163.0.4 (82.163.0.4) [AS15444] 86.845 ms 86.477 ms 86.377 ms
10 fa-0-2.cr1.lc.dhm.uk.razorblue.net (82.163.169.97) [AS15444] 127.420 ms 127.758 ms 127.161 ms
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If you're looking for good connectivity to the UK your best bet is to find someone UK based with LINX peering.
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01-27-2007, 06:02 PM #29Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by tical
I disagree - have you ever had your stream disconnected and had to wait for rebuffering - very frustrating. also on live video casts if he ever wants to do that - have 0 tolerance for it.
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01-27-2007, 08:04 PM #30Randy
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Originally Posted by RazorBlue - Dan
Dan, that trace is not leaving PTP on Cogent. It's leaving via peering and hooking up with Cogent. Typically this happens when the target network takes a great preference to taking inbound on Cogent. But at least it's a straight shot to your network, which shares peering with Cogent.Last edited by FastServ; 01-27-2007 at 08:09 PM.
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01-28-2007, 01:16 AM #31The least among you.
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01-28-2007, 01:23 AM #32The least among you.
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Originally Posted by sailor
also on live video casts if he ever wants to do that - have 0 tolerance for it.
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01-28-2007, 02:07 AM #33WHT Addict
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I know a bunch of the guys at PTP...they have a great network, and good colo facilities. I think they still have some space in Equinix Ashburn (if you want to pay for it) but they also have a bunch of space in Reston, VA on the same network. Also Brian, Alex, and everyone else over there are some of the nicest people around.
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01-28-2007, 03:37 AM #34WHT Addict
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Originally Posted by ticalJoe Cooter - <jcooter(at)sliqua.com>
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01-28-2007, 10:14 AM #35Randy
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<edit> removed </edit>
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01-28-2007, 10:39 AM #36WHT Addict
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Originally Posted by RazorBlue - Dan
The only reason Cogent is being used for that particular connection on the Premium network is because it was determined that it was the best route to your particular location. Typically Cogent isn't used at all in the Premium network at all, but I will send this thread to Brian for more information regarding it.
You speak of LINX peering, this is a traceroute from our Premium Network to LINX:
traceroute to linx.net (195.66.232.45), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 209.9.225.94 (209.9.225.94) [AS29944] 2.230 ms 0.448 ms 0.244 ms
2 TENGIGABIT-2-4.COLO1.ASH1.PULLTHEPLUG.COM (209.9.224.177) [AS29944] 0.311 ms 0.258 ms 0.230 ms
3 TENGIGABIT-2-1.COLO3.ASH1.PTPTECH.NET (209.9.224.5) [AS29944] 0.400 ms 0.341 ms 0.297 ms
4 ae0-14.was10.ip.tiscali.net (69.31.30.18) [AS4436] 0.411 ms 0.367 ms 0.797 ms
5 so-6-1-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.26) [AS3257] 77.669 ms 78.675 ms 77.638 ms
6 g0-0-123.tr2.tfm7.thn.linx.net (213.200.77.46) [AS3257] 204.078 ms 217.287 ms 252.259 ms
7 tan.linx.net (195.66.232.45) [AS5459] 82.833 ms 82.839 ms 83.032 msAlexander McMillen
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01-28-2007, 10:45 AM #37Junior Guru Wannabe
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Actually the reason that route is going out Cogent is because it's only being seen via Cogent,
82.163.0.0/17
We aren't receiving this from any other Transit than Cogent.
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01-28-2007, 12:19 PM #38Web Hosting Guru
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Originally Posted by rackguru
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PS. I can see the route via BTN but its slower than going via Cogent.
1 ge10-16.br02.ash01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.94.157) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
2 ge2-2.br01.frf02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.14.58) [AS 3491] 96 msec 96 msec 100 msec
3 de-cix1.cr1-telhe-lon-uk.as15444.net (80.81.192.71) [AS 6695] 96 msec 96 msec 96 msec
4 82.163.0.4 [AS 15444] 92 msec 92 msec 96 msec
5 fa-0-2.cr1.lc.dhm.uk.razorblue.net (82.163.169.97) [AS 15444] 136 msec 136 msec 136 msec
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01-29-2007, 05:27 AM #39Web Hosting Master
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that's a very good question. I have found that most Euro datacenters are bandwidth clogged anyways, and I have gotten better performance for a well setup datacenter in the USA or Canada then in Europe. Just a personal experience, however I can expect a psychotic insulted array of users that "just don't agree with that statement".
One thing to bear in mind is that the vast majority of Data Centres in the UK / Europe are Carrier Neutral. There will be 100s of ISPs in each DC, most of which will be running their own network. Just because ISP X in a particular DC doesn't have very good connectivity doesn't mean tht ISP Y in the same DC will have the same issues.
The only thing I can recommend is asking lots of questions regarding their AS numbers, what type of routing equipment they're running, what connections that have to what carriers at what speeds - and what the average busy hour % available capacity is, what peering links they have and so on. You should also perhaps identify 5 or 6 end-user IP addresses that might connect to your servers and ask for traceroutes to those addresses.Robin Balen
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You may also want to consider a datacenter that has InterNAP as when you buy from them you get roughly 6-8 different carriers.
We use Colo4Dallas which has InterNAP (and in Dallas, InterNAP has paid transit with ATT, Sprint, UUNET/MCI, Cox, Verio, Cogent, Level 3 and SAVVIS) and there is also Level 3 in addition to InterNAP for redundancy and in case Level 3 is a better route.ColoInSeattle - From 1U to cage space colocation in Seattle
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Originally Posted by KDAWebServices
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Might be more legwork than you're looking for, but just take a look at who's at the big european IX's and check for which of them is in North America.
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