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01-19-2007, 03:00 PM #101Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by Clueless_Medic
Regardless, your thread would fit under the Employment opportunities category, one of the advertising threads that does not carry a minimum restriction. Post away!Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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01-19-2007, 03:32 PM #102New Member
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Originally Posted by linux-tech
Originally Posted by the_pm
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01-19-2007, 04:04 PM #103CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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Originally Posted by sirius
On that note, it seems that this poll was an attempt to rally support for an overwhelming "No" which did not happen so it evolved into a "well this isn't a democracy."
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01-19-2007, 04:10 PM #104Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by IRCCo Jeff
The poll was an attempt to gauge reactions to the change after a week, after previous polls over 1.5 years had showed us of people being in favour of the change. Maybe it’s a different set of people voting (those who lost lots of posts, and those who didn't don't care?), maybe people aren't seeing the benefits? Who knows
Everything has some sort of effect (including this poll) - it's simply the degree and weight of that effect which matters. And yes, when it comes to community and moderation benefits we're seeing vs a poll which is approximately even 50/50, it's not hard to see which one will win.
At least IMHO.Alasdair
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01-19-2007, 04:17 PM #105The Community Leaders clearly have their own agenda and it's your job to follow that or risk termination so I don't expect you to agree with me.
On that note, it seems that this poll was an attempt to rally support for an overwhelming "No" which did not happen so it evolved into a "well this isn't a democracy."
The thread (read vote) has been tied since day one, or close to it.
For over a week now, this tidbit has been IN this thread:
The poll is great, but even if the poll turns out one way, and the mods think it best to go another, well, they'll take it that other way, and rightfully so.
Looks like the one with the agenda isn't the mods, it's you.
Yes, the mods asked for our opinions, and NO no (public) decision has been made yet. Even if it ISN'T what you want to hear, or what the poll states, remember (as I've said since the 9th), this is NOT a democracy.
Public forums don't work "publicly", the major decisions are made by the few (the moderators). They do what is best for the masses, in order to
A> keep the forum running smoothly
B> make their job as easy as possible
This does both, so, what are YOU complaining about here?
BTW:
The poll is hardly reflective of WHT's userbase. There are less than 100 votes, out of HOW many members? Barely 0.1 percent of WHT's membership has votedLast edited by whmcsguru; 01-19-2007 at 04:22 PM.
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01-19-2007, 04:33 PM #106Retired Moderator
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Forcing participation reduces the likelihood that the post is of value & increases the need for moderation.
You can still post in the advertising forums, regardless of how many posts have been counted for you.
The Community Leaders clearly have their own agenda and it's your job to follow that or risk termination so I don't expect you to agree with me.Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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01-20-2007, 07:14 AM #107Web Hosting Evangelist
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Put them back on, we leave posts within the review section of the adverts area and critically give information about people's websites, as many do to ours. We can understand it is an easy way to build up your post count, so maybe, as it is still an advertising forum, put a limit before people can post in it. Solves on of the problems.
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01-20-2007, 08:11 PM #108Junior Guru Wannabe
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well i think post is a post so all posts should be counted regardless of the section ....there shouldnt be any segregation between posts....what if those members who like there post counts to increase start posting in other sections just to increase there post count ....???
If this whole thing is intended towards members contributing to all sections(which seems like) then the idea is really good but PERHAPS execution is not... I feel it should be done but there should be some other way to do that......
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01-20-2007, 08:16 PM #109Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by InnovativeDesigners
While contribution to other sections is important, other reasons behind it include allowing us to banish other rules forever (like no pm me/pm sent), reduce posts designed to bump post-counts ('nice design', 'cool, I like it', etc..) and also reduce the list of things we need to look after there.
If anyone has a suitable alternative that meets some/all of those aims, we're all earsAlasdair
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01-20-2007, 09:23 PM #110Junior Guru Wannabe
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well trust me those who are habitual of posting like 'Pm Sent' or 'Pm Me' would still do so even if that post is not counted i used to post that reply without having intentions of increasing my post count when i was new at wht and got a warning . trust me after that i never did that... so these rules should not be banished or perhaps cannot be...
if someone posts that 'Nice Design' or something like that once in a week or so then i think thats fine.His intentions should not be questioned as may be he really likes the effort of fellow member and want to praise him. Infact that comes to sort of contributing to that particular section. advertisment section also needs contribution from other members
As far as suggestions or suitable alternative is concerned its a really tricky question let me think over it mate...
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01-20-2007, 09:51 PM #111CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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Let me take a moment to give you all the benefit of the doubt that this was discussed for so many years, supported by so many people, and has solved so many problems.
The fact is that it was not supported by a *clear* majority of WHT members and now that such is appearant you still do not wish to revert the decision. This seems to support the possibility of a pretentious attitude on behalf of management brought on by WHT's clear dominance of the web hosting forum industry.
If this isn't a democracy I don't see why you all chose to start a poll in the first place.
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01-20-2007, 09:57 PM #112CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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Originally Posted by tickedon
The only one's who are still "employed" from same hiring group as I are the ones that clearly supported Community Leaders on all points which was made evident from the forums and ticket system for which I was privy.
I would go into greater detail but I get the feeling that even this much will cause a bit of tension or even a few points or a "72 hour pass."
My point is I strongly disagree that we're all allowed to say whatever we wish and I really don't think that staff who frequently disagree with Community Leaders have much job security so I must respectfully take everything said by "green titles" with a grain of salt.
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01-20-2007, 10:27 PM #113Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally Posted by IRCCo Jeff
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01-20-2007, 11:12 PM #114Dennis Johnson
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Originally Posted by IRCCo Jeff
That wasn't it at all.There is no best host. There is only the host that's best for you.
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01-20-2007, 11:51 PM #115CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue
I try not to be a trouble maker so this is pretty much all i'll say on the subject. On the whole your staff does good work.
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01-21-2007, 12:33 AM #116ex. *** *****
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Anyway,
Are the post counts going to come back? Or is the current status the permenant decision?
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01-21-2007, 11:12 AM #117Web Hosting Evangelist
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Originally Posted by linux-tech
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01-21-2007, 12:24 PM #118CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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I believe you're referring to vBulletin's Reputation function
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01-21-2007, 12:28 PM #119Web Hosting Evangelist
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Originally Posted by IRCCo Jeff
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01-21-2007, 02:53 PM #120CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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They have another plugin for that too. Shouldn't be too difficult.
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01-21-2007, 08:35 PM #121Retired Moderator
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The fact is that it was not supported by a *clear* majority of WHT members and now that such is appearant you still do not wish to revert the decision. This seems to support the possibility of a pretentious attitude on behalf of management brought on by WHT's clear dominance of the web hosting forum industry.
Having your post count drop is something people naturally won't like, but it doesn't affect anyone's ability to use the community. But I've yet to see an argument that shows anything other than this is the best thing for the community. I'm having a hard time seeing why people vote against doing what's best for the community in favor of having a larger number attached to their names, but people have that attachment. Maybe it's time for them to let it go, and allow what's best for the community to happen.
If this isn't a democracy I don't see why you all chose to start a poll in the first place.Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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01-21-2007, 09:25 PM #122Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by scribby
To keep the post count folks happy, maybe show them as "10+" "100+" "500+" etc., and let the member individually see his/her exact count. Maybe have a ceiling post count so if you post (for example) 10,000+ times it just shows the infinity symbol
Still looks like a very close vote. I would have expected more votes from the community on such a "hot button" topic. Expected at least a couple hundred people to come and vote. There is still time, I suppose.If you have to operate your company behind the scenes or under a fake name, maybe it's time to leave the industry and start something fresh.
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01-22-2007, 02:29 AM #123
Just one of my observances since this was implemented.
I randomly check a new member from the latest users in admin. Especially those with a few posts already. Many times their 5, 6 or seven posts is actually more when you check their posts. They may have started in the ad forums, saying nice design, PMed you or other fluff posts, then they realise that their posts aren't going up, so they move into the main forums and join in discussions
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01-22-2007, 11:05 AM #124LORD OF THE RINGS
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Cool! Thats really a good change
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01-22-2007, 05:45 PM #125CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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Originally Posted by anon-e-mouse
I see this fitting in one of two categories:
1) The person is contributing to discussions and it shouldn't matter if they're contributin to advertising forums or discussion boards.
2) Their posts are absolutely worthless regardless of where they're posting.