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12-20-2006, 08:56 PM #51Temporarily Suspended
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12-20-2006, 08:59 PM #52Retired Moderator
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12-21-2006, 12:02 AM #54Eternal Member
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12-21-2006, 12:21 AM #55Retired Moderator
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12-21-2006, 02:01 AM #56Aspiring Evangelist
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I love how all the "Community Liaisons" band together for this.
Quite simply, if there are enough people repeating the same thing then there's a problem, how you choose too ignore and and how you choose to display your arrogance is a complete different issue. Neither of which is impressive.
I am a fairly new member here, had my account for some time, but pop my head in and out every so often as I need help.
From my perspective as a fairly new member / reader not poster of the forums the Premium Membership apart from a T-Shirt really offers me nothing. And when I read about the previous setup where you received discounts etc, and they are not there now, it once again represents poor value. Apart from paying money to gain access to a small number of forums, what is it exactly that I would be getting for my $50.
I may be wrong and not understand what's on offer, but from where i'm looking now i can't see anything that represents $50 worth.
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12-21-2006, 02:09 AM #57Web Hosting Master
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Sorry, I have to add this. So many people who complained and moaned over WHT becoming corporate with the skyscraper ad have premium banners. A bit of an irony guys, way to stick to your guns there
I do, however, realize that you have a business to run and to the uneducated WHT browser it'll appear to be more trustworthy, etc.GeeksGather - Undergoing redevelopment. Stand by.
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12-21-2006, 02:12 AM #58Originally Posted by Joel Theodore
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12-21-2006, 02:57 AM #59Web Hosting Master
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As a current iNET customer, there's nothing in the Premium Membership offer that interests me. They had a much better offer last time, but the advertising discounts probably proved too costly, so they're gone from the current Premium Membership offer. If they included something like being able to highly customise how WHT looked, and removed all the banner ads, then that would be something of real value. I would pay for that in a heartbeat.
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12-21-2006, 03:12 AM #60Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
...there's nothing in the Premium Membership offer that interests me.
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12-21-2006, 03:36 AM #61Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by writespeak
I always found that negative/critical feedback was far more valuable than positive feedback. I love/hate getting negative/critical feedback, and although it can hurt the ego, if it's listened to and taken to heart, it can be of huge benefit. That's been my experience, and not everyone views such feedback in a positive light.• WLVPN.com • NetProtect owned White Label VPN provider •
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12-21-2006, 04:11 AM #62An Awesome Dude
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Yes but it doesnt ever hurt to do a little more to help keep the place going.. (If i had a way of giving them $$$ i certainly would (And every site im on too.))
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12-21-2006, 05:18 AM #63Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
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12-21-2006, 06:15 AM #64Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
Of course, constructive negative feedback can be accompanied by positive feedback too.
In this situation, I really don't understand why some people feel that they have to repeatedly voice why they don't like the Premium memberships. Sure, they aren't for everyone. They were created for people who want what they offer. I'm not expecting to use a lot of the services offered at WHT, but I don't go on and on complaining about, for example, dedicated servers being a waste of money when I'm not even in the market for one. They aren't a waste of money for those who want one, just as Premium memberships aren't a waste of money for those who want them.
Why not live and let live.
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12-21-2006, 08:05 AM #65Yes but it doesnt ever hurt to do a little more to help keep the place going..
In this situation, I really don't understand why some people feel that they have to repeatedly voice why they don't like the Premium memberships
The number of individuals stating they DON'T like the change is vastly outnumbered by the number of individuals stating that they DO like the change, and telling those who don't to basically shut up and keep quiet.
At the end of the day, it's really simple. When purchasing something anything, a smart individual will look at the cost, and the benefits. If the cost outweighs the benefits, then clearly, it's something that shouldn't be purchased. In THIS, anyone can clearly see that yes, it does outweigh the benefits.
So, let's look at this from a realistic point of view here. For $50, you get a t-shirt. That's all, a silly t-shirt. Oh yeah, you get to be a member of the exclusive "premium members" club, but seeing how well the forum thing worked out in the past, yeah, that'll really work there. Of course, there's the 1k messages that you get now (gee, more space). If you need that many private messages, then you need to clean something out, seriously. 200 is more than what most should ever need. Hell, 200 will cover the amount of time I've been here very nicely (4 years).
Cost? $50/yr . Benefits? None, really . Oh yeah, you get the added benefit of "feeling good" because you threw your money at a rather big business' feet, but what do you have to show for it? A t-shirt? Whoopeeee! In the past, they've sucked anyways.
IF iNet was a not for profit organization, then, things would be different, but they're not. What they ARE is a for-profit organization that will shove any advertisement down your throat for any price. That point can clearly be seen by the unnecessary skyscraper additions.
If you feel like you HAVE to throw $50 to something, do it for something that actually does something good, goodwill, salvation army, your local pound, whathaveyou, but throwing $50 away on empty promises and nothing at all makes absolutely no sense.
f iNet isn't losing anything on the premium memberships and people still sign up for them, how exactly are they losing money?
Take, for example my case:
Over the past few years, as a premium member, I have had a discount on advertising. Since having that gave me an incentive for running various ads (sticky or not) in various forums. I did so. The total for those (even after the discount) came to around 1-200/yr.
Since said discount is no longer there, of course, the advertisements have stopped. Now, that is a loss of income. Have other advertisements taken the place? As of now, no they haven't. Will they? Possibly, but as of now, they haven't. THAT, in and of itself is called a loss of money.
Do the benefits add up? No. Do I feel like just throwing $35-$40 to iNet for nothing? Absolutely NOT. Now, if you do, hey, that's your choice, but at least give to someone who makes a difference and a contribution to the community, because that's just what you're doing, GIVING away your money there. You're not seeing any sort of return on it, any sort of recurring benefit on it.Tom Whiting, WHMCS Guru extraordinaire
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12-21-2006, 08:20 AM #66Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by anon-e-mouse
It's a symbiotic mutually beneficial relationship. I provide WHT with content, and keep the banners clicking over, and they provide me with a community to interact and learn within. Win - win, and that's why the model works. I and many hundreds of WHT regulars are the heart and soul of WHT. We're what makes WHT great, and such a great source of information for new or passing through visitors.
If they beefed up the Premium offer, like adding those items I mentioned (customisation etc), that would be great. To be able to customise how WHT looks, through my browser, now that would be something. That's something that appeals to me, and to many others too I would imagine. That's my "constructive" feedback.
And that's all I'm going to say about that!
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12-22-2006, 11:08 PM #67Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
Ditto that, extra options, mainly customization would be a killer selling point. Removal of ads, really isn't that big of a deal with the current browsers/addons. Heck even adding the option of a user avatar would be nice to include.Happily hosting @ Dathorn.com (Since 3/2003), Ispeeds.net (Since 2004), & Quadspeedi.net (Since 7/2005)!
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12-22-2006, 11:41 PM #68Web Hosting Master
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12-23-2006, 03:16 AM #69Web Hosting Master
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The ads aren't removed if you're a premium member?
What exactly is the point of getting a premium membership for just a $7 t-shirt?Kerry Jones
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Originally Posted by hcn
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12-23-2006, 03:52 AM #71LORD OF THE RINGS
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12-23-2006, 04:01 AM #72Aspiring Evangelist
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Originally Posted by hcn
If you have ever interacted with Bob in other forums (not hosting related) you will see that he brings the same spirit there that he puts forth here... except that there he has nothing to really gain. That's what makes some of the old "characters" around here valuable for content to WHT.... while making them successful in their ventures.
As we grow in business and in life itself, we hopefully evolve for the better. Statements made in the past like "I need WHT" might not be valid today even though they were at one time.
you are right though.... WHT does not need us... until the last valuable member leaves.
Just my thoughts.... no need to flame
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12-23-2006, 07:59 AM #73Originally Posted by TCP/IP Warrior
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12-23-2006, 09:10 AM #74Disabled
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move the premeon forums at the buttum of the forum..
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12-23-2006, 10:37 AM #75LORD OF THE RINGS
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Originally Posted by not-even-a-mouse
Once they get stable and receive a good name in the industry, they won't have to advertise here, because they will get clients through the "word of mouth". But, they coudn't avoid WHT, because they have to answer the Feedbacks (+ or -ve) from their customers, that can affect their business in a big way.