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12-15-2006, 01:09 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Bliksem Gave Out Your Info and Mine
When I did all my backups through cpanel to my own FTP server, it would send me a .gz file with everything included. Databases, Email accounts, Files, Passwords, everything.
Along with those files came some other junk (I thought) directories.
Today I'm sitting here just going through these files and seeing what I need and don't need.
One file interested me ALOT.
backup-12.4.2006_13-16-35_*****\homedir\.cpanel-datastore\reseller_RESELLERSUSERS_root
I opened it with a text editor and what a surprise....
it's a complete list of all the accounts that were on joie... INCLUDING LOGINS!
During a time when Blik messed up joie, we were moved to grenwerk... I have the same files in those backups.
I'm not going to post the content of these files, but I suggest you all change your passwords/logins for your sites when you move them.
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12-15-2006, 01:11 PM #2Everything in life is swelly
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This reminds me of a soap opera (no I don't watch them)
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12-15-2006, 01:21 PM #3Newbie
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CJV what kind of informations do you have?
I mean login could be public... but password.. it's encrypt (hope with some strong algorithm).
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12-15-2006, 01:38 PM #4Newbie
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When I did all my backups through cpanel to my own FTP server, it would send me a .gz file with everything included. Databases, Email accounts, Files, Passwords, everything.
Could you please post directions on how to make this backup? I could't retrieve any backup using cpanel transfers from my old Bliksem server.
Regards,
Ed
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12-15-2006, 01:46 PM #5Everything in life is swelly
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You new host should make this backup for you and restore it on the new servers.
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12-15-2006, 01:49 PM #6Newbie
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Hi HostFrog,
I've tried to make the backups by myself already using VPS cpanel without any success.
Ed
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12-15-2006, 01:50 PM #7Everything in life is swelly
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Have you done this through remote FTP?
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12-15-2006, 02:00 PM #8Newbie
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Hi,
I've done through the following WHM options (not sure about remote FTP):
- Copy an account from another server
- Copy an account from another server with account password
What is the correct option and what are the recommended settings?
Thanks for your help
Ed
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12-15-2006, 02:02 PM #9Newbie
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Hi,
how could is possible to make a backup if I cant reach webserver and conseguently my control panel?
Thanks,
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12-15-2006, 02:16 PM #10Everything in life is swelly
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Originally Posted by ArsMagnaWeb
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12-15-2006, 02:18 PM #11Junior Guru Wannabe
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I used cpanel (NOT WHM) for all of the web sites that I am webmaster for.
go to backups.
Click on "Generate/Download a Full Backup"
Backup Destination: select "Remote FTP Server"
Fill in the rest of the server info
Click "Generate Backup"
Wait for the file to be delivered.
I did this weekly for all my sites when the joie was still up and running.
If you generate the files to your home directory, they will be no good.
If you just try and download them through cpanel, they will be no good.
The only good backups I was able to get from Bliksem were done this way.
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12-15-2006, 02:30 PM #12Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally Posted by ifthenelse
I'll keep looking around.... Maybe I can find Jav's social security number or credit card info.-= Webmaster=-
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12-15-2006, 06:40 PM #13Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally Posted by ifthenelse
And 'normal' accounts (as opposed to reseller accounts with Bliksem) required you to submit password changes to them via a support ticket (for "security" reasons apparently).
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12-15-2006, 07:58 PM #14Invented the Internet
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Originally Posted by zlod
What the heck?!? Why would they need your passwords, when they can access everything as root (including change your password, so they can get in). This is the most assinine requirement I have ever heard. For "security" reasons would be a complete lie. If anything, I could see someone getting password information and using it for sinister purposes...like, hoping you use the same password for other things as well.
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12-15-2006, 08:14 PM #15Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally Posted by AH-Tina
I did indeed query it and was told:
As root...we have access to your entire account and any of your databases. It's our server and we need this access to make sure no files against our TOS are being uploaded. The only thing we need your password for is for installing a Fantastico script or accessing phpmyadmin. However, we still have access to your databases on our servers so that's moot.
We have never allowed cpanel change password access for shared accounts. With all due respect, this isn't something we are going to enable now serverwide for one account, even temporarily. If you want to change your password, please update this ticket with what you'd like it to be, as every single shared hosting account with us does.
My tech is being truthful with you as we are with all of our clients. You cannot enable this on a per account basis. As he explained, we have had the same policy for close to three years. If you do a bit of research on the issue you will find a slew of incidents where passwords were hi-jacked using the cpanel change password feature. It is simply NOT a safe feature to use and we are not the only host that disables this.
There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't request a password change from our techs. We use a secure help desk and the password is x's out after it's adjusted so it isn't stored in any database.
Suffice to say i never bothered to change my password with them
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12-15-2006, 08:29 PM #16Web Hosting Guru
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That doesn't make sense... phpMyAdmin can be accessed via root and if there is a need for Fantastico, they can ask the customer to provide the password only when it is needed. Disabling password changing feature is retarded, I've never seen this 'evidence' he refers to, especially if cPanel is protected with a reliable server-wide SSL.
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12-15-2006, 08:44 PM #17Invented the Internet
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They're referring to the feature where you can reset a cPanel password via email (which did have some security issues a couple of years ago), but making it sound like its "all" password changes via cPanel. That's completely ridiculous. There is absolutely no legitimate reason why they would need to keep your password on file or why they would need to prevent you from resetting your own password.
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12-15-2006, 10:38 PM #18Everything in life is swelly
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