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[imhere2009]

H all

Just making this post as i need opinions. I have had a vps server from powervps.com for 3 months, the package i have it LINUX CPANEL POWER-1
$44.50 per month, And i have a site monitoring service from www.siteuptime.com
And keep recieving emails to say my server is down, My statistics are here: http://www.siteuptime.com/statistics...&&UserId=58295

And even when i try to reboot the vps it doesnt, or when it does ( very rare ) it give me constant errors are apache or something else wont start.
My website is new so theres very little activaty on there at the minute, so what im asking is, is it time to get up and move to another provider, do you think the service im recieving is right for the price, or do you just think im trrying to get something for nothing sort of speech.

If its time to leave, who would you recommend?

look forward to your opnions,

Thanks
steve

[jhadley]

Basically 256mb memory isn't enough to run cPanel properly. My advice would be to either heavily tweak it or buy more memory/upgrade.

[imhere2009]

Buy more memory? i dont use hardly any, like i say there really isnt much activity on the vps so that should be fine,

Steve

[reiteration]

I'd contract powervps and see what they have to say...

[jhadley]

Originally Posted by imhere2009

Buy more memory? i dont use hardly any, like i say there really isnt much activity on the vps so that should be fine,

Steve

Have you checked in VZ? Even if you have no sites on the server cPanel alone uses up about 256mb which in your case is everything you've got.

[imhere2009]

Hi VT6

Yeah i have heard of this, but to be truthful, if 256mb isnt enough, why would they do or sell it as a service?

Steve

[reiteration]

Personally I see little point in a server, dedicated or virtual with less than 512mb.

Memory is so cheap now why settle for 256 ?

Host sell 256mb because most customers put price before service.

[bryonhost1]

Hi!
Please post the output of these two commands...and we'll go from there.

1) cat proc/user_beancounters

2) ps axfuw

Both commands..logged in as root..and cd .. out of the "root" directory.

With this..we might be able to figure out what to do.

Bryon

[imhere2009]

Hi

The following is the output on the vps:

cat proc/user_beancounters = No such file or directory

ps axfuw =

USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.0 0.0 1620 600 ? Ss 07:01 0:01 init [3]
root 17770 0.0 0.0 1524 544 ? Ss 07:01 0:00 syslogd -m 0
named 17783 0.0 0.0 46468 2672 ? Ssl 07:01 0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u named
root 17799 0.0 0.0 1448 372 ? S 07:01 0:00 /usr/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/var/spool/authdaemon/pid -facility=mail
root 17800 0.0 0.0 1796 616 ? S 07:01 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/courier-authlib/authdaemond
root 17830 0.0 0.0 1796 240 ? S 07:01 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/courier-authlib/authdaemond
root 17831 0.0 0.0 1796 364 ? S 07:01 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/courier-authlib/authdaemond
root 6079 0.0 0.2 9888 8396 ? S 19:53 0:00 | \_ /etc/authlib/authProg
root 17832 0.0 0.0 1796 240 ? S 07:01 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/courier-authlib/authdaemond
root 17833 0.0 0.0 1796 240 ? S 07:01 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/courier-authlib/authdaemond
root 17837 0.0 0.0 1796 364 ? S 07:01 0:00 \_ /usr/libexec/courier-authlib/authdaemond
root 7270 0.0 0.2 9888 8396 ? S 19:53 0:00 \_ /etc/authlib/authProg
root 22482 0.0 0.0 4008 1128 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 24341 0.0 0.0 6900 2276 ? Ss 20:08 0:00 \_ sshd: root@pts/0
root 25687 0.0 0.0 2148 1280 pts/0 Ss 20:09 0:00 \_ -bash
root 25878 0.0 0.0 2300 800 pts/0 R+ 20:09 0:00 \_ ps axfuw
root 22493 0.0 0.0 2072 788 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 xinetd -stayalive -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root 22503 0.0 0.0 2144 1124 ? S 07:03 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var
mysql 22525 0.0 0.3 108844 16372 ? Sl 07:03 0:10 \_ /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/ --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysq
root 23598 0.0 0.1 9712 7996 ? S 07:03 0:01 chkservd
root 23610 0.0 0.0 1452 380 ? S 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/var/run/imapd.pid -start -name=imapd /u
root 23611 0.0 0.0 1560 512 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/couriertcpd -address=0 -maxprocs=40
root 23619 0.0 0.0 1452 300 ? S 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/var/run/imapd-ssl.pid -start -name=imap
root 23620 0.0 0.0 1560 492 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/couriertcpd -address=0 -maxprocs=40
root 23625 0.0 0.0 1452 380 ? S 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/var/run/pop3d.pid -start -name=pop3d /u
root 23626 0.0 0.0 1560 512 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/couriertcpd -address=0 -maxprocs=40
root 23631 0.0 0.0 1452 300 ? S 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/var/run/pop3d-ssl.pid -start -name=pop3
root 23632 0.0 0.0 1560 492 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/couriertcpd -address=0 -maxprocs=40
mailnull 23706 0.0 0.0 8784 1196 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim -bd -q1h
mailnull 23714 0.0 0.0 8912 1136 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/exim -tls-on-connect -bd -oX 465
root 23722 0.0 0.0 3044 1176 ? S 07:03 0:03 antirelayd
root 23797 0.0 0.5 25504 23596 ? Ss 07:03 0:02 /usr/bin/spamd -d --allowed-ips=127.0.0.1 --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pi
root 24065 0.0 0.5 25768 23308 ? S 07:03 0:03 \_ spamd child
root 24067 0.0 0.5 25504 21940 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ spamd child
root 23827 0.0 0.0 2472 920 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 crond
mailnull 23906 0.0 0.1 7704 5236 ? S 07:03 0:02 eximstats
root 23974 0.0 0.1 6856 4768 ? S 07:03 0:00 cpbandwd
root 23975 0.0 0.1 9648 7156 ? SN 07:03 0:00 cpanellogd - sleeping for logs
root 24016 0.0 0.0 3828 1324 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 pure-ftpd (SERVER)
root 24019 0.0 0.0 3568 924 ? S 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/pure-authd -s /var/run/ftpd.sock -r /usr/sbin/pureauth
mailman 24105 0.0 0.1 10272 4704 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailm
mailman 24113 0.0 0.1 10060 6688 ? S 07:03 0:03 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24114 0.0 0.1 10060 6696 ? S 07:03 0:02 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24115 0.0 0.1 10036 6696 ? S 07:03 0:03 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24116 0.0 0.1 10096 6688 ? S 07:03 0:02 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24117 0.0 0.1 10044 6712 ? S 07:03 0:03 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24121 0.0 0.1 10060 6756 ? S 07:03 0:03 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24122 0.0 0.1 10060 6684 ? S 07:03 0:03 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
mailman 24123 0.0 0.1 10060 6684 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/q
root 24124 0.0 0.0 4044 804 ? Ss 07:03 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -m /var/run/saslauthd -a shadow -n 2
root 24133 0.0 0.0 4044 464 ? S 07:03 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/saslauthd -m /var/run/saslauthd -a shadow -n 2
root 24155 0.0 0.0 1480 392 ? Ss 07:04 0:00 /usr/sbin/portsentry -tcp
root 24301 0.0 0.2 17492 8988 ? S 07:04 0:00 cpsrvd - waiting for connections
root 26137 0.0 0.0 2772 612 ? S 07:16 0:00 postsuexecinstall - searching for suexec problems (828 min remain)
root 28103 0.0 0.1 11052 5776 ? Ss 07:16 0:03 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
root 32198 0.0 0.0 5772 3588 ? S 07:16 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/cpanel/bin/leechprotect
nobody 32199 0.0 0.1 12468 7308 ? S 07:16 0:02 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 32200 0.0 0.1 13044 7860 ? S 07:16 0:01 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 32201 0.0 0.1 12892 7732 ? S 07:16 0:01 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 32202 0.0 0.1 12996 7784 ? S 07:16 0:02 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 32203 0.0 0.1 13036 7776 ? S 07:16 0:01 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 1880 0.0 0.1 12876 7720 ? S 07:17 0:01 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 1889 0.0 0.1 13016 7792 ? S 07:17 0:01 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 9828 0.0 0.1 12428 7264 ? S 09:06 0:00 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 14256 0.0 0.1 12952 7772 ? S 11:55 0:00 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL
nobody 18132 0.0 0.1 12416 7256 ? S 11:56 0:00 \_ /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -DSSL


Thanks
Steve

[moshemarc]

you guys just scared me to death. I was going to buy a 256 memory vps from liquidweb or another. If i get 256 and use the entire 200 bandwidth, am I frying my stuff?

[bubazoo]

Originally Posted by reiteration

Personally I see little point in a server, dedicated or virtual with less than 512mb.

Memory is so cheap now why settle for 256 ?

Host sell 256mb because most customers put price before service.

no its not that so much.... I think its because alot of people just don't have $50+ a month to spend on a VPS.. We have to put price in high priority, because we do web design "not for profit" (or at least alot of people do if you want a successful website these days) so when its your money out of your own personal checking account, $20 or $50 monthly makes all the difference.. It means the difference between putting food on my kids table one night, or not...

The 256meg plans are so cheap nowadays, I've seen them in the $20,30 range.. To get 512, and thats the very minimum nowadays, you have to pay as much as you would a full blown server, which s the part I really don't like about VPSing.. I've even seen cpanel Virtuozzo VPS's run on as little as 128mb (although I don't see cpanel being that strip down able hehe)

but yeah like take powerVPS for instance, to get 256 is $40 a month, but to get 512 you have to pay almost $90 a month, thats a BIG jump.. Thats what I'm saying that I think is stupid.. I don't mind paying for better support, but, I don't want to pay double for more memory when cpanel needs it, thats just stupid if you ask me, something like that they should be giving you at no charge and charging extra for support, not the other way around.

What I mean is, when your control panel needs more memory for whatever it needs to run the actual website in the background, they should give that to you complimentary.. I mean, I don't see a problem with 256 guaranteed RAM, because the maximum allowed is always much more then that, but the minimum amount should run the users control panel, if it doesn't, then THAT is what the hosting provider should provide complimentary, because like I found out on my host today, causes problems more then anything, esp when yer installing something.. I've seen cpanel services crash while your not even IN cpanel at all. I mean that right there should be complimentary..

[keith007]

Hi

Im with Powervps, I originally went with the 256mb plan, I upgraded to 512mb, you apparently get more CPU and Ram, so everything runs better

All I can say.. dont waste ya money with 256mb unless you know what your doing and strip out some stuff

Maybe its there severs as mine is crap now, and they cant move me to another.. so im off

Regards

Keith

[reiteration]

Forget price.

Know your requirement and then get the best deal you can.

If you need 512mb don't complain when you get 256mb and its not working as you expected.

A small thing called "profit" has to be made by all hosting companies, people expect the earth for $40 per month - its just not going to happen.

You can keep on dreaming all you like, its just not going to happen.

If you can't afford it get something else you can afford.

[moshemarc]

amen brother! boozoo

[moshemarc]

So why am i paying $100 for vps when last year i could get a dedicated for this price?
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