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06-24-2002, 11:56 AM #1Junior Guru
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KPNQwest / E-bone
Anyone know the latest on the KPNQwest / E-bone situation?
I haven't been following it as much as I was last week because they came up with a temporary solution, but it'd be a shame to see England fall of the internet within the next couple weeks.
I haven't seen a lot of updates at http://live.save-ebone.com so I figured maybe someone else had been following the story?
This may not be in the right area, but it is somewhat technical so I figured this would be best. If needed, could a moderator please move it? Thanks.
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Edit: I meant to post this under the Technical section.- joey
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06-24-2002, 12:42 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Yea I heard about this the other week as apparantly the majority of freeserves traffic goes through them and they are one of the biggest ISP's in the UK (?)
It does look worrying.
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06-24-2002, 12:46 PM #3Junior Guru
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They are one of the biggest backbones in the UK I believe, and it could cause some major problems, but I'm not sure how and when we would notice the effects. If anything happened and it came to that, I can't imagine the administrators would unplug all their hard work. They would probably let it deteriorate itself.
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06-24-2002, 12:48 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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I highly doubt "England will fall off the internet" within the next couple of weeks. The country that uses KBNQwest is Holland, so I believe they would be most affected.
Many British ISP's are just re-routing their traffic through many of the over Tier-1 providers, and there are a lot of others, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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06-24-2002, 12:53 PM #5That's all it takes?
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Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
I highly doubt "England will fall off the internet" within the next couple of weeks. The country that uses KBNQwest is Holland, so I believe they would be most affected.
Many British ISP's are just re-routing their traffic through many of the over Tier-1 providers, and there are a lot of others, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Now if LINX was shut down, then I may be less optimistic...
btw, last I heard (over the weekend) a judge has ordered that funds available right now will first be used to keep the network running and *after* that their debt will be paid.... so it's all good for now....www.idologic.com - Reseller, VPS and dedicated hosting - Friendly Customer Service - DirectAdmin - cPanel - InterWorx
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06-24-2002, 03:54 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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i use chello here in austria, and last i heard from someone i know they dropped their connections to to qwest and are now using MFN, level3, telia, and their own pipes.
worked out good for me, now i'm going direct into the US, no more bouncing around europe to get to new york.
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06-24-2002, 03:57 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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For those of you capable of German language visit http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-24.06.02-005/ for the latest news.
A bit outdated but English: http://www.heise.de/english/newstick...-31.05.02-005/
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06-25-2002, 06:52 AM #8WHT Addict
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According to those articles KPNQest is one of the largest networks in Europe
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-11-938742.html
http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtm...toryID=1125794sjau
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06-26-2002, 08:12 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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KPQwest has a lot of network capacity, probably the most out of any player in Europe - but the simple fact is, most of it is not used. As for the UK, as far as I am aware KPNQwest does not have a network inside the UK, they merely connect their Euro-rings into the UK from mainland Europe. There are plenty of other players coming into the UK such as Level3 etc. that can all quite easily handle the traffic.
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06-26-2002, 08:37 AM #10WHT Addict
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There is an offer of €60.000.000 on the KPNQwest network.
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06-26-2002, 02:45 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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where do you have that number from, robert?
just read that ams-ix has cut off 6 out of 7 links of kpnqwest.
ouch! that hurts!Last edited by BiGWill; 06-26-2002 at 03:15 PM.
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06-26-2002, 02:47 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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If you think it's bad with KPNQwest, just wait till MCI WorldCom go bankrupt - which is looking very likely. There are also quite a lot of other carriers that look like they are going to go down the pan too.
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06-26-2002, 03:09 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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06-26-2002, 03:20 PM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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That 1gbit connection at ams-ix will be shut down on 1st of july. Almost everybody that I know of has rerouted their traffic, but I feel sorry who are single-homed @kpnqwest.
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06-26-2002, 03:33 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Superior-IS
That 1gbit connection at ams-ix will be shut down on 1st of july. Almost everybody that I know of has rerouted their traffic, but I feel sorry who are single-homed @kpnqwest.
and it depends if you see kpnqwest as the whole, or if you separate GTS/ebone. just have a look at the ams-ix member page: http://www.ams-ix.net/cgi-bin/publicmembers.cgi
GTS Europe B V. NIKHEF 10BaseT
GTS Europe B.V./KPNQwest SARA 100BaseTX
GTS Europe B.V. NIKHEF 100BaseTX
GTS Europe B.V. NIKHEF 100BaseTX
that's former Ebone
KPNQwest, NIKHEF 1000BaseSX
KPNQwest. SARA 1000BaseSX
KPNQwest NIKHEF 100BaseTX
and that's the 'old' KPNQwest without Ebone.
so it's far more then only one gig-e connection.In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.