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  1. #1
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    KPNQwest / E-bone

    Anyone know the latest on the KPNQwest / E-bone situation?

    I haven't been following it as much as I was last week because they came up with a temporary solution, but it'd be a shame to see England fall of the internet within the next couple weeks.

    I haven't seen a lot of updates at http://live.save-ebone.com so I figured maybe someone else had been following the story?

    This may not be in the right area, but it is somewhat technical so I figured this would be best. If needed, could a moderator please move it? Thanks.
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    Yea I heard about this the other week as apparantly the majority of freeserves traffic goes through them and they are one of the biggest ISP's in the UK (?)

    It does look worrying.

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    They are one of the biggest backbones in the UK I believe, and it could cause some major problems, but I'm not sure how and when we would notice the effects. If anything happened and it came to that, I can't imagine the administrators would unplug all their hard work. They would probably let it deteriorate itself.
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    I highly doubt "England will fall off the internet" within the next couple of weeks. The country that uses KBNQwest is Holland, so I believe they would be most affected.
    Many British ISP's are just re-routing their traffic through many of the over Tier-1 providers, and there are a lot of others, so it shouldn't be a problem.

    Now if LINX was shut down, then I may be less optimistic...
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    Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
    I highly doubt "England will fall off the internet" within the next couple of weeks. The country that uses KBNQwest is Holland, so I believe they would be most affected.
    Many British ISP's are just re-routing their traffic through many of the over Tier-1 providers, and there are a lot of others, so it shouldn't be a problem.

    Now if LINX was shut down, then I may be less optimistic...
    KPNQwest is one of the players in the Netherlands... but not the only one nor the biggest..


    btw, last I heard (over the weekend) a judge has ordered that funds available right now will first be used to keep the network running and *after* that their debt will be paid.... so it's all good for now....
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    i use chello here in austria, and last i heard from someone i know they dropped their connections to to qwest and are now using MFN, level3, telia, and their own pipes.

    worked out good for me, now i'm going direct into the US, no more bouncing around europe to get to new york.

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    For those of you capable of German language visit http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-24.06.02-005/ for the latest news.
    A bit outdated but English: http://www.heise.de/english/newstick...-31.05.02-005/

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    According to those articles KPNQest is one of the largest networks in Europe

    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-11-938742.html

    http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtm...toryID=1125794
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    KPQwest has a lot of network capacity, probably the most out of any player in Europe - but the simple fact is, most of it is not used. As for the UK, as far as I am aware KPNQwest does not have a network inside the UK, they merely connect their Euro-rings into the UK from mainland Europe. There are plenty of other players coming into the UK such as Level3 etc. that can all quite easily handle the traffic.
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    There is an offer of 60.000.000 on the KPNQwest network.
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    where do you have that number from, robert?
    just read that ams-ix has cut off 6 out of 7 links of kpnqwest.
    ouch! that hurts!
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    If you think it's bad with KPNQwest, just wait till MCI WorldCom go bankrupt - which is looking very likely. There are also quite a lot of other carriers that look like they are going to go down the pan too.
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    Arthur Anderson are gaining quite a distinctive reputation
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    That 1gbit connection at ams-ix will be shut down on 1st of july. Almost everybody that I know of has rerouted their traffic, but I feel sorry who are single-homed @kpnqwest.

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    Originally posted by Superior-IS
    That 1gbit connection at ams-ix will be shut down on 1st of july. Almost everybody that I know of has rerouted their traffic, but I feel sorry who are single-homed @kpnqwest.
    hrm, there is more then a single gig-e at ams-ix of kpnqwest.
    and it depends if you see kpnqwest as the whole, or if you separate GTS/ebone. just have a look at the ams-ix member page: http://www.ams-ix.net/cgi-bin/publicmembers.cgi
    GTS Europe B V. NIKHEF 10BaseT
    GTS Europe B.V./KPNQwest SARA 100BaseTX
    GTS Europe B.V. NIKHEF 100BaseTX
    GTS Europe B.V. NIKHEF 100BaseTX
    that's former Ebone

    KPNQwest, NIKHEF 1000BaseSX
    KPNQwest. SARA 1000BaseSX
    KPNQwest NIKHEF 100BaseTX
    and that's the 'old' KPNQwest without Ebone.

    so it's far more then only one gig-e connection.
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