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  1. #1
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    Smile Pls help me select among 9 hostings; I need 100% managed cause I'm a noob :)

    Hello!


    These days I searched some good hostings to transfer my phpbb forum, and I found those options:

    httpme.com
    site5.com
    lunarpages.com
    hostrocket.com
    hostingzoom.com
    inmotionhosting.com
    unitedhosting.co.uk
    emaxhosting.com
    hostgator.com

    I'm a TOTAL noob, so I need a 100% full managed hosting.

    (I also need : good technical support, 50-100 gb monthly bandwith, high limit of mysql query / hour (many connections together in the forum), 512 ram, xeon processor, linux)

    Budget is not a problem for me (I will be happy to pay big bucks, if the service is good).


    Which ones of the above listed offer a 100% full managed hosting?
    Which ones you'll recommend to a newb like me?
    And which ones do you NOT suggest me?


    Thank you very much!

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    Hi!
    Some of those in your list does not offer 50/100 GB monthly bandwidth, you may want to re-check them
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    You are right Jedito!
    UnitedHosting.co.uk doesn't offer more than 20 gb/month.

    Too bad.. from what I readed here they looked professional.

    Ok, now the list is:

    httpme.com
    site5.com
    lunarpages.com
    hostrocket.com
    hostingzoom.com
    inmotionhosting.com
    emaxhosting.com
    hostgator.com

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    You ca always purchase additional bandwidth - often times companies that offer large amounts of bandwidth for low prices have poor server performance. They do have to make up the money somewhere...


    Best Regards,

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    I suggest you to search about site5 and also, althrough I understand that everybody want to get the most for the less money, don't go for those super crazy deals where you get 60 GB of Space and 1000 GB bandwidth for $10 (as example), that's not going to happen.

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    try looking at sharkspace as well, they are pretty great.

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    Another thing that you may want to check with those hosts are the Mysql connection limits, if I'm not wrong Hostgator does have 25, I don't know about the others, and probably only those hosts know it.
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    Thank you very much guys

    But my question is:
    Which one from the 8 hosting listed above offer the "most" 100% full managed hosting?

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    What do you exactly means with "fully managed"?
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    ..good question
    ..but I don't know how to answer because I don't know nothing about "hosting managing"!

    The only thing I can do is to use a FTP program to upload files on my website.

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    Well, what would you need to be done by your host?
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    Just what the best 100% full managed hostings usually do

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    Indeed, None of those are fully managed if you mean a host that will install the scripts for you, create your email accounts, etc.
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    I understand Jedito, but which ones of the above listed are the "more" full managed?

    Sorry if this looks like a stupid question, but it is the first time I change hosting and I am worried.

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    A host usually just "host" your site, and you take care of everything else, that's what all the hosts on your list do (if I'm not wrong).
    Some do offer pre installed script which may make things easier to you, but at the end, you're on your own.
    Of course, most of them are going to offer support if you need it in technical problems, or guide you with things that you may need, but I don't think that any is going to maintain your site (unless you pay an additional fee) or manage it.
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    By managed what exactly are you looking for? What current management do you have on your hosting provider?
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    It sounds like what the OP is asking for is a company that will do what Jedito said. He wants to ftp his site and that's it. Wants the company to yes, create email accounts, adjust spam and antivirus settings, install and maintain scripts along with the server maintanence and whatever else he might need done. Sounds that way anyway.
    Generally speaking that's outside of a normal hosting provider, however there are companies that do just that. Some charge more, some don't. I would say though for a service like this and the requirements (space/bandwidth/etc.) the OP will need to up their budget, it'll cost you more than a standard $10.00/month hosting plan.
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    At my current hosting I installed a phpbb forum (downloading it from phpbb.com), then I uploaded it (using a ftp program downloaded from download.com) on my website, then I created a mysql database from my hosting site (a very simple action wich required just a few clicks).
    Then I installed the phpbb forum going on www.( my website ).com/install.php.

    This is all I did.

    But I don't know, for example, how to transfer this forum to the new hosting.. how to transfer its mysql database.. how to link them.. I would like all that stuff done to someone else, or at least someone who can tell me what to do.

    This is my situation.


    Thank you very much for you help guys!



    Edit:
    Jim2Macs, I think you are right!
    It is not a problem for me to pay more.

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    In many cases the new host will transfer for you. Your email addresses, MySQL databases, ftp accounts, etc can all be transferred over by your new host.
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    ItBroker, my mistake, I think some of us didn't understand your definition of fully managed, I obviously didn't. Many host will help you transfer your site from your current host. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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    Sorry, I do misunderstood your request too, do you need only your site moved to your new host? if yes, most will do it without any problem, and probably, free of charge, depending of the size of your site.
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    Yes, I don't need anything special, but I don't know how to do stuff like setting a server, directly managing a mysql database, or other things.
    I am a fast learner, but I would like to be helped when I will have for example to set an image uploader on my forum, or an email account, etc.

    Thank you for your support

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    I am sure your new host can help you with some things down the road. In a shared hosting environment, you wouldn't have to worry about sever settings, etc.

    Alot of hosts have tutorials on how to setup email accounts, etc.
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    As Hostfrog said, on a shared host you'll need to set your forum and that's it (if that what you use). You don't need to worry about the server setting or maintenance.

    There are many flash tutorials that can help you to set email account, create mysql databases, create subdomains, etc.
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    Very good!

    At this point:
    - I think that all my fears about managing an hosting camed from reading experiences of people who had to set VPS, dedicated servers, etc.. am I right?
    - Which one of those hostings (httpme.com site5.com lunarpages.com hostrocket.com hostingzoom.com inmotionhosting.com emaxhosting.com hostgator.com sharkspace.com servage.net) has the best technical support?

    Again, thank you!
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    Yes, I think that you're right, only on VPS (non managed) and dedicated servers you'll have to deal with that kind of things.

    About recommendations, I can't give you any unfortunately, because I never used them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedito
    As Hostfrog said, on a shared host you'll need to set your forum and that's it (if that what you use). You don't need to worry about the server setting or maintenance.

    There are many flash tutorials that can help you to set email account, create mysql databases, create subdomains, etc.

    You may not need to worry about server maintenance, but you will need to learn how to update your scripts unless you find a host that will do that for you.

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    Thank you Chris.
    Do some of the mentioned hostings (httpme.com site5.com lunarpages.com hostrocket.com hostingzoom.com inmotionhosting.com emaxhosting.com hostgator.com sharkspace.com servage.net) will do this for me (or at least tell me how to do)?

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    If you were able to download phpbb and upload and install it to a shared server, you should be able to update it. It is usually just uploading some updated files, possibly running the installer again and your done. Not all scripts are that easy, but some are. The updates will usually have a README file that will instruct you on how to update.

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    If you install it using an auto-installer (at least with Fantastico, don't know about others) you can upgrade your forum software just with a few clicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedito
    If you install it using an auto-installer (at least with Fantastico, don't know about others) you can upgrade your forum software just with a few clicks.
    Yup, and more than likely the most easiest way to install this script. I am sure the OP has installed it this way. However, if that is the case...would his future host have to have fantastico installed, if infact it was a fantastico installed script?
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    Lunarpages is the best hands down. I have been there over 3 yrs and would not think of changing hosts. There are many scripts available for auto install thru your cpanel (Fantastico), you can manually installl any others, the mySQL database queries are 50 simultaneous, and there are tons of bandwidth and space, and they will transfer your site for you, up to 5 databases if each is less than 300mb. The service and support is excellent. I would definitely consider them before any other. Just my two cents worth. Good luck with your choice whatever it may be.

    Ratpatrol

    Forgot to mention that if its hand holding you need, their forums have alot of help for that with quick replies as well as paid forum moderators !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItBroker
    Very good!

    At this point:
    - I think that all my fears about managing an hosting camed from reading experiences of people who had to set VPS, dedicated servers, etc.. am I right?
    - Which one of those hostings (httpme.com site5.com lunarpages.com hostrocket.com hostingzoom.com inmotionhosting.com emaxhosting.com hostgator.com sharkspace.com servage.net) has the best technical support?

    Again, thank you!
    Dear ItBroker,

    You should really try searching WHT for additional information about these companies (just go here: http://webhostingtalk.com/search.php and enter the names of the hosting companies you'd like to find more information and reviews on as keywords). There are literally *hundreds*+ reviews on the various companies that you mentioned. No one person in this thread can authoritatively tell you that X company has THE BEST support or that Y company would fit your needs perfectly - that is a decision you are going to have to ultimately make on your own (based on whatever information/reviews you gather in this thread and via other threads/mediums).

    After researching the various providers and again narrowing down your list (or expanding it if you find some other viable options), try contacting the company you are interested in directly via their sales department to get a better feel for the type of service they provide and whether or not you think they would best suit your needs. Also - remember that a lot of people posting on WHT are DIRECT competitors of the hosts that you mentioned, so their "suggestions" *might* be a little bit biased. With that being said, there are many people here that are honestly just trying to help you out and provide you with the best possible information.

    I have two quick questions for you:

    1. I know that you don't have a specific budget - but do you need to find a company that can provide “the best support/service” for $5.00 per month? $20.00 per month? $100.0 per month? If you really don't have any budget, you can go with a truly high end managed VPS/server provider that can offer large amounts of bandwidth, server processing power, max mysql connects, etc. in a very stable environment.

    2. Are you looking for a host that can really help “hold your hand” and actually take the time to help you learn (you mentioned you were a quick learner!) instead of just pointing you to a knowledgebase, FAQ, or google? Many hosts are willing to troubleshoot any *technical* problems that you have with your actual account or the server that you are on, but aren’t very good at/willing to hold your hand/teach you various things about successfully running a website.

    EDIT:

    And I almost forgot - I wish you the very best of luck in your search for a new host!
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    Thank you very much for your message Brendan Diaz!
    1- Can you suggest me some of these full managed VPS/dedicated?
    2- You are right; I fully understand!





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    be prepaired to pay big bucks if you want 100% managed hosting

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    Or $29 a month for the managing, www.platinumservermanagement.com.
    As for VPS providers, I've heard good things about www.jaguarpc.com.
    Do a search though, it always helps.

    But personally, when it comes to VPS, the memory on the things is so expensive it's stupid.

    So if you're looking to have a cPanel VPS, or Plesk VPS, stop looking and grab a fully managed dedicated server, or an unmanaged one and managing from www.platinumservermanagement.com.

    I'm sure if you tell them you're a hosting newbie they'll harden it and install any stuff you want them to easily.

    Hope I helped, and good luck.
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    I think Audacity can do everything you're asking, and it's free

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItBroker
    Thank you very much for your message Brendan Diaz!
    1- Can you suggest me some of these full managed VPS/dedicated?
    2- You are right; I fully understand!




    Lunarpages has some good packages in the VPS/Dedicated area if you're interested in them. I would offer a link to the pages with the info on it but I think it would be against the TOS (*note to self: go back ad re-read TOS).

    At any rate, speaking from a shared hosting point of view(I am hosted at Lunarpages), the questions you've asked are easily answered. Go to the Lunarpages site (or any that you decided to narrow the search down to) and ask them either by phone or by live chat.

    You can request that Lunarpages transfer the website content for you, making this as easy a process for you as possible.

    I myself have 3 blogs, a small SMF forum plus web pages and have not had any issues to date. Clients of mine have large SMF forums along with multiple web pages, photo albums, etc. and are still going strong.

    So, you see, contacting them will shed a lot of light too. That plus the information you learn from here too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratpatrol
    Lunarpages is the best hands down. I have been there over 3 yrs and would not think of changing hosts.
    Mind sharing with us the domain you have been hosting there?

    ItBroker...

    you may try any of the host you have mentioned, but you should only purchase what is required. For example if your site only requires 300mb of web space, do not go an purchase a hosting package that gives you 10gb. At least that should in theory get you a more decent host. And if it sounds too cheap or too good to be true...then you have to becareful.

    Good luck with your search.
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    Upgrading forum softwares can sometimes be very very tricky , cause i know i have upgraded so many forums to this date, phpbb was my fav. as all you could do on a modded phpbb is edit mannually. For moving to other host i tell this most of the time on phpbb.com when they request how to transfer :

    1. Go to phpmyadmin (if you have it in you account). >Download the Gzipped format of the sql database (your forums) > If you did not understand might want to check http://www.forums.a1whs.com/index.php?topic=13.0

    2. Put new install of same version( you know how to install phpbb right if not let me know will provide a small how-to on that too) you currently run on old host.
    4. Now go into phpmyadmin of new host, and click on the new forums db for your new forums.
    5. Drop all tables and everything on your new hosts sql for forums.
    6.Click on import tab, browse to your sql backup you made from old host and press go.
    7. After it says blabla instructions executed succefully without error you are 1 step closer to transferring away.
    8. Now this part is trick, on you new db browse for phpbb_config table and i think on page 2 or 3 of it lies your server location url and stuff. or you can use at this stag the autocookies mod found on phpbb.com

    After step 8 and setting your db configs to your new server and location you will have your forums transferrred.

    If some of the steps above are not clear post on phpbb.com and you will get some reply.

    As far as hosts you listed, i dunno never used them. So goodluck.

    Enjoy.

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