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  1. #1
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    1paket Prices Go Up

    Dear customer,

    because of increasing energy costs, upcoming sales tax increment, as well
    as resultant purchase conditions, unfortunally we are obliged to readjust
    the tariffs for the server system mentioned below.

    The change in prices in details, which applies as from the 1. of February
    2007 and regards the following system:

    xx

    As a matter of course you are free to be contrary to this and to cancel
    the contract, for the named server, to the next possible cancellation
    deadline.

    Mit freundlichen Gren / Sincerely yours
    A significant jump too, 35 ->60. Curious to know who else is affected by this - are you staying or switching?

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    It depends how long they have been absorbing costs but I'm not surpised and I'm sure other providers will be following suit
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    I understand nothing. What does it mean? They want you pay extra than they provoide?

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    If customer was paying $35 last month, next month they will have to pay $60
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    View....!!! It is unrespectably! I think that his provider make mistake. They have to love their customers. And what are you going to do?

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    View....!!! It is unrespectably! I think that his provider make mistake. They have to love their customers. And what are you going to do?
    I think that was very clear and quite obviously not a mistake. I don't know what I'm going to do, which is one of the reasons I posted - I'm wondering what other people are doing.

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    there's been price increases all over the industry, especially in the UK london datacenters but does seem a bit hefty increase $35 for a dedicated server been pushed to $60 you still cant complain

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    there's been price increases all over the industry, especially in the UK london datacenters but does seem a bit hefty increase $35 for a dedicated server been pushed to $60 you still cant complain
    Yeah, but at that rate it's cheaper for me to pursue other options - especially because I was using the box for a non-profit cause. I asked them how much it'd be to buy the box, as I could colo it for much less.

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    Yes, 1paket did have very good value for the machine. With this price increase, there are other providers that could provide much better value (bandwidth quality, machine power) for the money. I got both backup machines at 1paket increased in price:

    $25 -> $59
    $39 -> $69

    This might be one of their strategies to attract customers first with deep discounts, then raise price and those who are afraid of moving servers will continue to stay. I don't like this tactic but hey, it's their business. I'll move to another provider before Feb 07.
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    too bad

    i was canceling either way even before seeing this email

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    yeah, not great
    i only use my server for experimentation/personal reasons

    most likely i'll be leaving, which is disappointing cos i've been really happy with my server
    but i can't afford to pay that much for a server when i'm not making any personal gain out of it

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    i was looking to signup with 1paket but now i dont think its worth it. was looking to get a cheap server for testing some web apps btw is it standard for them to ask for a scan of your credit card?

    jake

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    no they never asked for any scan of credit card


    payment is by paypal


    i wouldnt trust anyone to do give details like that

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    Just for the record, they said that they are not willing to sell the server or the hard drive (or, for that matter, and I quote "any part of this server").

    That's fairly weird.

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    strange they keep saying if you pay by credit card that they need a scan of my credit card for verification purposes..

    anyone is this normal procedure for them?

    jake

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    is a little usual since you could scan a card you picked of the street pay with that and you got a server, they would be better of requesting photo id such as passport or drivers' license, then again you could probably say the same for those aswell

    One thing i will say is allways check your tos, if they say they have the right to ammend the price then you cant really argue, also if i remember right on some of their posts they clearly say, $x for first month then $y after

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    well, on their t&c it says price will not go up by more than 5% a year, i told them that, but they said there's nothing they can do, rising energy prices

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtra
    well, on their t&c it says price will not go up by more than 5% a year, i told them that, but they said there's nothing they can do, rising energy prices
    no they can't if theyre a fully registered company, you can run a complaint with their company house in germany about this, they have to go in accordance with their terms and conditions, even if they changed it now they would still be liable as this was before the changes, unless stated for any exceptions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukgaz
    no they can't if theyre a fully registered company, you can run a complaint with their company house in germany about this, they have to go in accordance with their terms and conditions, even if they changed it now they would still be liable as this was before the changes, unless stated for any exceptions
    I don't know how it is across the pond, but in US.. There's no such restrictions on a company.

    Basically, blank out all numbers except the last 4.. They can see your whole credit card details anyway if they're using modernbill with a slip-security key (as I call it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukgaz
    no they can't if theyre a fully registered company, you can run a complaint with their company house in germany about this, they have to go in accordance with their terms and conditions, even if they changed it now they would still be liable as this was before the changes, unless stated for any exceptions
    Depending on the contract length you have with them they can increase the price at any time for sure. Of course if you do not agree you can cancel, but this was already mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocebo
    Just for the record, they said that they are not willing to sell the server or the hard drive (or, for that matter, and I quote "any part of this server").

    That's fairly weird.
    I would imagine that's because the server doesn't belong to them, if you think about it logically you'd be insane to spend $600 each on a bunch of servers and then go and rent them out for $35/month, it's probably likely that they're leased and as a result cannot be sold.

    Selling for such a low price however is most certainly a flawed business plan as the price increases indicate. On the other hand, people who bought from them should have noticed this with a bit of common sense, I can't really say I've got any sympathy for those affected.

    Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorBlue - Dan
    I would imagine that's because the server doesn't belong to them, if you think about it logically you'd be insane to spend $600 each on a bunch of servers and then go and rent them out for $35/month, it's probably likely that they're leased and as a result cannot be sold.

    Selling for such a low price however is most certainly a flawed business plan as the price increases indicate. On the other hand, people who bought from them should have noticed this with a bit of common sense, I can't really say I've got any sympathy for those affected.

    Dan

    Think you mihgt be right there, looks like they could be resellers of greatnet.de or the other way round, as to showing of their tracerts, go through same routers, and their ip ranges are seriously close

    C:\Documents and Settings\Gareth>tracert greatnet.com

    Tracing route to greatnet.com [83.133.96.6]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.5.1
    2 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms 85-234-158-129.static.poundhost.com [85.234.158.
    129]
    3 118 ms 199 ms 6 ms g0-2-2-273.core01.lon02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.
    117.242.233]
    4 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms v3491.mpd01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.
    221]
    5 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms t1-1.mpd02.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.2
    6]
    6 79 ms 80 ms 79 ms t8-1.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.41]

    7 81 ms 81 ms * v3495.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.4
    6]
    8 75 ms 74 ms 74 ms gblx.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.138]
    9 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms LAMBDANET-COMMUNICATIONS.ge-5-3-0.ar2.FRA3.gblx.
    net [64.209.92.58]
    10 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms FRA-1-pos310.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.96.49]
    11 91 ms 91 ms 90 ms FRA-2-pos500.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.96.94]
    12 97 ms 96 ms 97 ms MUC-8-pos700.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.105.230]
    13 97 ms 97 ms 97 ms GRE-0-pos1337.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.107.50]
    14 96 ms 97 ms 97 ms server.greatnet.de [83.133.96.6]

    Trace complete.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Gareth>tracert 1paket.com

    Tracing route to 1paket.com [83.133.126.254]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 4 ms 7 ms 7 ms 192.168.5.1
    2 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms 85-234-158-129.static.poundhost.com [85.234.158.
    129]
    3 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms g0-2-2-273.core01.lon02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.
    117.242.233]
    4 7 ms 10 ms 7 ms v3490.mpd01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.
    217]
    5 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms t2-1.mpd02.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.1
    8]
    6 80 ms 81 ms 80 ms t3-3.mpd02.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.12
    2]
    7 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms v3496.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.5
    0]
    8 79 ms 79 ms 79 ms gblx.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.138]
    9 94 ms 94 ms 94 ms LAMBDANET-COMMUNICATIONS.ge-5-3-0.ar2.FRA3.gblx.
    net [64.209.92.58]
    10 94 ms 95 ms 94 ms FRA-1-pos310.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.96.49]
    11 95 ms 94 ms 94 ms FRA-2-pos510.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.96.98]
    12 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms MUC-8-pos700.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.105.230]
    13 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms GRE-0-pos1337.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.107.50]
    14 101 ms 102 ms 101 ms angelina.frazzetta.de [83.133.126.254]

    Trace complete.

  23. #23
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    i had 2 of the $35 servers, to be honest 60 is still a good price for them, its only happened to the ones they advertised about a month - 2 months agao at 35 dolars....

    my other servers were unaffected

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