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    * 1and1 or godaddy?

    I might choose one of them to setup my multi-websites. Does anybody have experience with their multi website feature? Here are their ads.

    1and1
    http://faq.1and1.com//domains/using_...domain_/2.html

    godaddy(deluxe plan)
    https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/shared.asp

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    Hi

    one and one have some bad reviews on here, am not to sure about godaddy, i recommend searching the forums for reviews.
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    Both have a lot of bad Reviews. I would recommend spending some more time researching your choices before going with either one of them.

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    How about supporting a hosting company that doesn't try to suck the life out of this industry like those two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertahosting
    How about supporting a hosting company that doesn't try to suck the life out of this industry like those two?

    Hey, thats a good point! To the OP, I highly suggest you do that search and just read the feedback.
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    Yep. I will. I learn that 1and1 has money guarantee back while godaddy doesn't. What about that? Is it better than godaddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertahosting
    How about supporting a hosting company that doesn't try to suck the life out of this industry like those two?
    It is hard to find a stable and reliable hosting company. I think both of them will not disappear after one or two years. That is the first request to a hosting company for me.

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    IXPP I think you need to re-evaluate here. You are looking for a company that won't disappear after a year or two. There are many companies on these forums alone that have been around 3+ years, even up to 8 or 9 years, and are still doing well.

    And they don't have the same atmosphere prevailing there products by former customers as godaddy and 1 and 1.

    Take Cartikahosting for example, they have been around since '03. And I know there are many more, that is just the first one that came to mind.

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    Thanks for your advice. I just use whois tool to do some research. Here are the result.

    1and1
    Created: 1997-09-27
    Expires: 2007-09-26

    godaddy
    Created: 1999-03-01
    Expires: 2012-03-01

    For me, if I will choose a hosting company, I will first find out how long the company exist as a request to be evaluated. However, it is a personal preference totally. No a fight signal to the other companies here.


    Quote Originally Posted by XSI-Larry
    IXPP I think you need to re-evaluate here. You are looking for a company that won't disappear after a year or two. There are many companies on these forums alone that have been around 3+ years, even up to 8 or 9 years, and are still doing well.

    And they don't have the same atmosphere prevailing there products by former customers as godaddy and 1 and 1.

    Take Cartikahosting for example, they have been around since '03. And I know there are many more, that is just the first one that came to mind.

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    If someone can give me more recommendation, I will appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixpp
    If someone can give me more recommendation, I will appreciate it.
    I'm not trying to argue with you choosing a company based on lenght of business, I don't want to see you choose a hosting company though that you will end unhappy with in the end.

    Feel free to research Godaddy and 1 and 1's reputation regarding hosting. They don't have a very good reputation.

    I would rather see you with a company that has been around a while that satisfies your lenght of business requirement but has good recommendations overall and happy customers.

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    Hola!
    Well...I tell you. I have accounts with both of them...but don't use either for hosting. I know...let me explain a few things.

    Godaddy is good for domains..but that's it. Hosting? Joke. Been there..done that.
    Next!

    1and1 is good for domains as well...plus I do have their business hosting account.
    I don't use them for hosting either...no...I had to have the goodies!

    However..I will not purchase anymore domains from them...I detest this *Now that I want to pay for more than one year...I can't* thing of theirs. Blah. Next!

    You want a decent host? Okeedoke.

    http://www.rshosting.com

    They are not cheap...but extremely reliable. Not only have I been a customer of theirs..uhhh...they have been a customer of mine as well.

    They only sell reseller accounts..but I think that's what you want anyways.

    There you go...a recommendation. Biased? Yup. They're fantastic. I don't get a dime to send them customers, though.

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    i've had godaddy shared hosting and its been exceptionally good. the best i ever have had actually. their dedicated server services on the other hands are horrible.

    BlueHost.Com is my second recommendation. They have positive reviews everywhere. Just type in "BlueHost Reviews" In google and you'll get a whole bunch

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    I've only ever been with godaddy in the past myself and found them to be 'ok' their site was a bit complex to use however soon figure it all out
    1and1 I myself have never used however a website I was a member of used them and had their site defaced(hacked) one day it was a mass deface of all websites on the server(s) but if that is anything to go by their servers really cant be that secure, locally or remotly

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    InfoH: You or the website operator are confusing something. If anything like that ever happened, there would have been press coverage. You probably meant to refer to "all sites under the same account / user permissions", because of exploitable PHP scripts the web site operator uploaded to the account.

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    When it comes to domains, you cannot go far wrong with godaddy.

    Furthermore, the domain control panel of 1&1 is extremely confusing, whereas with godaddy it's pretty straight forward. That's certainly something to consider, I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldee
    InfoH: You or the website operator are confusing something. If anything like that ever happened, there would have been press coverage. You probably meant to refer to "all sites under the same account / user permissions", because of exploitable PHP scripts the web site operator uploaded to the account.

    No, there was not a fault on the the website I am a member at..
    all websites on that specific server were defaced..
    they gained access via another website i'd imagine and rooted the machine locally..

    was some turkish deface group

    zone-h have the deface pages for it.. it was listed as a Mass Defacement

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    Hi!
    Actually...my complaints about 1and1 have nothing to do with the domain control panel. Their service: Deplorable (But expected)
    Just using them for email: Deplorable-talk about slow??? Cpanel was never this slow..even on a poor resource-starved vps. Oh..the blacklist feature? Doesn't even work...even an address you blacklist is still going to put in the "Spam folder"
    that you have to go through (very painful). Sad.

    There are three bright spots..unlike any other spam folder...the system sends you a daily report of what's in there. Nice. Also...even though the control panel is slow as molasses...it does at least feature a button to click if you want 10-30-50 messages displayed at one time..which helps a little.

    Also...their dns times are the best I have ever seen. Even the overhead (as tested at dnsstuff.com) is as low as 95 ms...and I think 147 was the highest for overhead. Nameserver response is almost never above 10ms. Impressive.

    Live and learn.

    As I said...I didn't sign up with 1and1 for hosting at all. Goodies galore!

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    To answer the original question, i use godaddy deluxe plan for multiple websites. My websites are simple and generate little traffic. You sign up with a primary domain. Then you can add more domains by creating sub-directories for mydomain2 and mydomain3. Use the control panel to activate mydomain2 and 3. Then website www.mydomain2.com is live in a few minutes/hours. Place all your webpages and code in the sub-directory. However, you can visit the website with www.myprimarydomain.com/mydomain2/ as well as www.mydomain2.com.

    My dislike about godaddy multiple domains is i can't figure out how to setup emails for my additional domains. I have a single email address for each domain as part of godaddy's domain name product. The primary hosted domain has unlimted email adresses as part of godaddy's hosting product. But i'd like to have many email addresses for my additional domains. One of these days I'll call or email godaddy tech support.

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    i have used www.aplus.net now for a few years now. I don't recommend using godaddy because they do, infact, have a lot of bad reviews. However, i would watch Aplus with their control panel and not click anything unless you really want to, like purchasing 15 years of domain like i did once. It didn't confirm my order and billed my account in a matter of seconds. Thankfully, the order didn't go through and they removed the bill from my account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfoH
    No, there was not a fault on the the website I am a member at..
    all websites on that specific server were defaced..
    they gained access via another website i'd imagine and rooted the machine locally..

    was some turkish deface group

    zone-h have the deface pages for it.. it was listed as a Mass Defacement
    In this particular case, a mass defacement does not refer to a hosting server, but to commonly used exploitable versions of certain scripts, typically outdated forums software (e. g. phpBB and its plugins are well-known suspects in this regard). If the forum operators didn't update the deployed software after the incident, it's only a matter of time that the same thing will happen again.

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    I've tried both... I had TONS of problems with GoDaddy... they even had to delete my acct and recreate it because they couldnt solve the problems of my directory structures breaking.

    I've been using 1&1 for most of this year and am quite satisfied. I love their "everything under one roof" setup and their control panel functionality... it does everything I need it to do and does so very intuitively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldee
    In this particular case, a mass defacement does not refer to a hosting server, but to commonly used exploitable versions of certain scripts, typically outdated forums software (e. g. phpBB and its plugins are well-known suspects in this regard). If the forum operators didn't update the deployed software after the incident, it's only a matter of time that the same thing will happen again.

    This is incorrect,
    Mass-Defacement is when a defacement is occured at the same time
    defacing RFI's(Remote File Include Vulnerbilities) would occur one after another not at the same time. weather is is done by the same person or not,

    However as I stated before the website I was a member of was not vulnerable
    It was a website on another server which they gained local access through and then gained root via local access..

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfoH
    This is incorrect,
    Mass-Defacement is when a defacement is occured at the same time
    That's only half the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by InfoH
    defacing RFI's(Remote File Include Vulnerbilities) would occur one after another not at the same time. weather is is done by the same person or not,
    When a large amount of web sites is targeted via the same vulnerability within a short time span - typically within days after the vulnerability is disclosed in the first place - the incident does qualify to be a "mass" defacement

    Quote Originally Posted by InfoH
    However as I stated before the website I was a member of was not vulnerable
    It was a website on another server which they gained local access through and then gained root via local access..
    It was vulnerable. Feel free to provide the domain name and the corresponding zone-h record for further insight, if there's anything available there that will make the issue more clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixpp
    It is hard to find a stable and reliable hosting company. I think both of them will not disappear after one or two years. That is the first request to a hosting company for me.
    There are many hosts that have been around for many years - longer then both of them.

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    Wow! 1&1 has a money back guarantee? That's ridiculous! If they refund to unsatisfied customers, how do they make any money? I've now read hundreds of posts across the Internet from dissatisfied customers...I'm one of them! Did they refund all that money?

    Doubt it. The way 1&1 seems to operate, you probably have to fax 4 copies of page 8 of a secret document hidden in the vaults of the fiery cave of Asheroth, which can only be reached after defeating 16 customer service representatives in a spelling bee (which will be held in several middle-eastern languages), and then sacrificing something you don't need, like say, a kidney. Then maybe they'd give you a partial credit.

    Seriously. Stay away from 1&1. There are entire websites devoted to calling them out.
    Lots of people are mad at 1&1: http://www.1and1sucks.info/

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    Well how about resellerclub dot com from directi many bad review too?

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    keep away from 1&1

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    1and1 sites down for 2 days and counting

    I have several sites hosted with 1and1 and they are all down. It appears they have "server" issues, it is taking over 48hrs to fix them. People do answer the "phones" but they are just off-shore phone operators, they know nothing about the business or hosting. (fyi - I was also down for over a day last month as well).

    I would have thought if you are as big as 1and1 says they are, they would be able to replace the server, restore from last nights backup and be up in 3-4 hours, not 48 hours+ with not eta on when they will be back on-line.

    I'm currently this site looking for a replacement!

    Stay away from 1and1

    Cheers, jon

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    I wouldn't go with any of those for hosting...

    Multi websites... hum... LunarPages allows you to use addon domains, but if you need a lot, it will get expensive on the basic package. In this case, if your sites aren't cpu intensiv, I would recommend DreamHost. I only recommend webhosts I use...
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    Lots of good hosts here on WHT. When you go with a company that is as big as those two, they don't care too much about one unsatisfied customer.

    They might have been in business for a while, but if they can't keep your site up, it does you no good.

    Definitely stay away from both for hosting. Domains with godaddy would be okay though.

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    Godaddy

    Go Daddy has been good for me.
    as has olm.net
    as has hostrocket.com
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    goDaddy is the best on domain name, i like it's feature but very bad for domain reseller control very hard to understand.

    Resellerclub provide better price and easy to manage for domain name reselling.

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    1and1

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That needs to be MUCH larger! NOOOOO


    You'll only get the phone answered by someone in another country that really can't even understand english well enough to answer a conversation. Seriously, simple sentances like "was it backed up" is not understood. Ask a question and you will get a long dead silence as if they are gone. Literally 30 full seconds later they will reply some unrelated answer. I guess that is the time it takes to look it up or translate it.

    They are always super slow getting your sites back up when they go down. But really, my site went down Thursday night and didn't go back up until Monday morning. I called several times a day each day and not one person could tell me what was actually wrong. They told me there was a network problem and then that there was an actual server hardware problem and that it had to be replaced. Finally, Monday morning, I called a number that was routed to the USA and got the manager to do a reboot. Presto, all done. There WAS no problem with the server. They just hadn't gotten to it. COME ON! PRessing a button! I was left with zero knowledge if my sites were even there for days! Absolutely rediculous.

    By the way, I am on here in search of a new host.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon
    I've been using 1&1 for most of this year and am quite satisfied. I love their "everything under one roof" setup and their control panel functionality... it does everything I need it to do and does so very intuitively.
    Yes, true, but just wait until you have a problem. Pray it isn't on the weekend. If you have a dedicated server call 877-206-4255. Oh my god, I called it so many times trying to get my site back up that I memorized it! That is answered by the US or UK.

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    Feel free to research Godaddy and 1 and 1's reputation regarding hosting. They don't have a very good reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmean
    goDaddy is the best on domain name, i like it's feature but very bad for domain reseller control very hard to understand.

    Resellerclub provide better price and easy to manage for domain name reselling.
    Any others opinions on ResellerClub ? I was researching and considering them ...

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    Thumbs down Stay away from 1and1

    I signed up with 1and1 at the end of November, and all of my hosted sites have been down 5 times, for between 8-72 hours. If you want unhappy clients stay away from them.

    btw - all my sites are down again, but the "admins" are working on it! Hopefully they'll be up by Monday or Tuesday.

    I'm now looking at HostGator or ZoomHosting (like the idea of the failover system, but according to some posts, it doesn't appear to work very well).

    Jon

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    There are a lot of better hosts than godaddy and 1 & 1. Godaddy is no.1 in domains and not hosting.

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    godaddy is ok for domain but not good for hosting and 1and1 is..... Hmm i don't know how to say about their hosting services?? Let me tell you a story about them (it's just happened with my friend few days ago): My friend ordered a business account(200G space and 2000G band); he's built up a forum, one day when he visit his forum it show him nothing but an error page and what's next??? he's trying to login admin.1and1.com to see what happend but it's more funny when it said there's no account like that in 1and1 database. So he tried to contact 1and1 for ask them about his account but it's more than a week and he still hear nothing from them yet (even an auto respond email or a voice message);i tried to help my friend by send emails to ask them at least return his forum database so he can change to another hosting company but the same thing with my emails.Now i wonder if 1and1 ever (yes have they ever) care about their customers ??
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