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  1. #1
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    9 out of 10 e-mails now spam

    http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/eu.../uk.spam.reut/

    It's only a matter of time before they venture into instant messanging.
    Patron: I'd like my free lunch please.
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    This recent article kinda goes with it... lol

    What's with all this spam?
    http://www.networkworld.com/news/200...am.html?page=1

    The hell with world peace.... I want no spam.
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    If 5c whre charged for every email....
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    It is difficult to fight spam because the problem crosses international borders, said a spokesman for the UK Information Commissioner's Office, the body which enforces the law.
    well, its not exactly very difficult to fight spam. If they want to fight spam they should create an kind of treaty for spammers where spammers can be bought to justice let him be from any country. If they start suing people even with 1 month imprisonment or capital punishments of few thousand dollars, it will create huge effect on spammers business.

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    It will only end when people stop buying diet pills, herbal highs and sexual performance enhancers, said Dave Rand, of Internet security firm Trend Micro.

    "The products they are selling by spam are exactly the same products that they sold in the Middle Ages," he said. "This really is a human problem, not a computer problem."

    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahinder
    well, its not exactly very difficult to fight spam. If they want to fight spam they should create an kind of treaty for spammers where spammers can be bought to justice let him be from any country. If they start suing people even with 1 month imprisonment or capital punishments of few thousand dollars, it will create huge effect on spammers business.
    First the people in gov has to see it as a pressing issue. Then it would take a very long time to hammer out agreements with countries.

    Blue frog was onto something until the spammers put them out of business... you have to hit 'em where it hurts. In the pockets. Of course, that does nothing for the 50 or so stock spams I have sitting in my inbox and spambox from one spammer (same stock quote).
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    "It will only end when people stop buying diet pills, herbal highs and sexual performance enhancers"
    There goes my weekends.

    As for IM spam? Already here. Had someone just last night trying to get me to auth him so he could spam me. Used repeated auth requests to spam when I wouldn't.

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    i get a bunch of weird image spam. spam imbedded into images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
    i get a bunch of weird image spam. spam imbedded into images.
    Yeah, that's one of the latest spammer tricks. I can't imagine how we can filter them without blocking all emails with image files.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelized
    http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/eu.../uk.spam.reut/

    It's only a matter of time before they venture into instant messanging.
    I already get spam on Yahoo messegner and ICQ
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    I have yet to meet anyone who has actually bought anything from spam links. But then, who wants to admit that they have small body parts and can't get dates.

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    how did they come up with these numbers?

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    Whats worse, it is impeding normal business communications emails. Frankly if I were to exit from the Internet business, I wouldn't even want an email account now or maybe get one with strict Challenge Response. Sooner or later those spammers would kill the goose that laid the golden eggs......

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    I get an average of 50 - 100 spams in one of my accounts. It's bad. I even have some extra gmail accounts where I never use (only one welcome email from Google in the inbox), and even those accounts get spam now and then. I hate spam.

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    Only 9 out of 10? I would imagine more!

    I don't think it has anything to do with humans in general. There'll always be someone wanting to buy stuff from spam. After all, if you send out millions of emails daily, you are bound to find one or two who are willing to buy It is the sheer volume and low cost of spam that drives it.

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    This past weekend was the worst spam weekend of the year, and it's gonna get worse with Christmas coming. We had one Corporate client come in to almost 4000 emails from the weekend. For longest time he wanted nothing to do with our filters saying "we dont know what's spam or not for his company", plus he is computer illiterate for the most part..... this morning he said he would like to start testing those fancy spam filters of ours..lol

    Out of thousands of spam a day, I might have 5-20 get thru to me. One day all our systems will be in sync worlwide and be able to take the fight to the spammer. What gets me is with all our technology, and 9 out of 10 emails being spam, it's surprising we cant stop them.. but at least the big boys are trying..

    http://legal.web.aol.com/

    Just imagine how much faster the internet would be if we could shut down all the major spammers..
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    That's the dilema, you hit it right on the head.

    people complain about losing email. But when they get blasted with spam it becomes the providers fault.

    It's a hard line. But what I've done with all business customers is not give options. I configure my Merak Servers with TONS of filters, 6 different rbl lists (some block specific countries) and custom rules (not many, about 20) and it cuts down on over 50% of the spam. Doesn't sound great but that's a pretty good number and it's a monumental task to overcome it.

    It's a losing proposition. there is -no way- to get rid of spam. it's going to be just as important as anti-virus.

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    I pulled my email logs for last week. For a period of 168 hours (7 days), there were 7153 attempts to deliver email to my server. 4888 were rejected due to DNSBL (thanks www.spamhaus.org); another 1159 were bounce'd, no such user. 254 connections ended in timeouts (most were from cnet.com); 6 were rejected due to relaying. The remaining 670 email's made it to my client, where 567 found there way into the SPAM folder.

    Out of 7153 attempts to deliver email to my server, only 128 were for legitimate email. That's less than 2%. 9 out of 10? I'm 98 out of 100.

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    Mine is around 9.6 or something..

    For one account 100 emails, and maybe 2 or 3 that are not spam.

    I am getting pretty good at recognizing and deleting spam (takes me around 30 seconds)

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    I have all mail forwarded to GMail. At the beginning it was very good (and still is) in terms of stopping spam. But now it seems spammers are finding more ways of getting pass the filters.. Before GMail would catch almost all spam. But now, about 20 spam emails still get through to my main inbox...
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    mine is on a moderate setting but spam assas on the server and thunderbird's built in filter do a good job combined.

    Code:
    
    Total 	 	 	 	 134569 emails
    Dropped 	 	 	 41254 emails
    Average processed 	 	632 emails/day
    Average dropped 	 	194 emails/day
    Minimum processed 	 	3 emails on Apr 30, 2006
    Minimum dropped 	 	0 emails on May 18, 2006
    Maximum processed 	 	1368 emails on Nov 27, 2006
    Maximum dropped 	 	586 emails on Oct 12, 2006
    Percent dropped 	 	 30.66%
    Best day 	 	 	 0.00% on May 12, 2006
    Worst day 	 	 	 56.05% on Nov 04, 2006
    
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    That's a lot..

    Iam almost spamfree since i use thunderbird. I have three kind of filters:
    - SpamAssasin on server.
    - My own word filters.
    - Thunderbird recognizion filters.
    - Block senderlist (not a real filter).
    - Blacklist senders (not a real filter).

    Other than that i keep one email for registrations etc, one for friends and one for work. Ofcoarse the first one catches more emails.

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    It's only a matter of time before they venture into instant messanging.
    What rock have you been hiding under? They've been doing IM spam for YEARS now. Yahoo/ICQ especially

    I wouldn't say 9/10 emails is spam, but I do toss quite a few emails on a daily basis.
    The only choice to fight this is going to block valid mail as well. Unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done.
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    It's only a matter of time before they venture into instant messanging.
    Try joining an aim chat room some time. All of them are filled with bots.

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    even yahoo chat rooms are bots as well. where are we going?

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    Yep.... full of bots trying to sell porn, and cops pretending to be teenage girls, heh.

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    Across our shared servers for today so far, approximately 1.8 million spam emails were rejected. The bulk being from the RBL spamhaus.org, but customized SpamAssassin catching the rest (approx. 150,000). That doesn't account for the other 2 million+ emails that are not filtered by users that got through, most of which is spam.

    Per the latest image spams, OCR plugins do a great job at catching most of them.

    - John C.

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