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  1. #1
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    Server Load is over 1.00 (1 cpu) - Is my server not good?

    Hello,

    right now I got this server:

    AMD Barton 3000
    1 GB RAM
    80 GB HDD
    10 mbps portspeed

    how is the server? i guess it's bad right? I got on the server two file hosting projects, which are getting good hits....

    how is the server for that two projects? i need a better server right?

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    Unless you start seeing load of 10 or 50 i doubt you need to switch , load of 1 is ok, even my dual xeon server stays at 0.20-0.60 most of the time.
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    load is entirely subjective, it just means you have alot of things running.

    If you have very high cpu %, i/o wait%, etc that would indicate a problem

    otherwise since it's a file download site I'll assume you have alot of processes running / waiting with relatively moderate CPU and i/o

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    Quote Originally Posted by paidhosting
    Unless you start seeing load of 10 or 50 i doubt you need to switch , load of 1 is ok, even my dual xeon server stays at 0.20-0.60 most of the time.
    but the status gets red when its over 1.00 and the sites are not reaching, i have to restart http (apache), so the sites work again...

    is the server hardware bad?

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    What does your httpd.conf look like?
    Ram usage?
    Swap usage?

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    I'm guessing that you haven't optimized Apache yet (Which will bring down the load a lot). Plus a load of 1 should be no problem at all. in fact, up to a load of 2-3 you should not even notice any speed drop.

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    Right now:

    cpsrvd up
    named (9.2.4) up
    httpd (1.3.37 (Unix)) up
    syslogd up
    Server Load 0.47 (1 cpu)
    Memory Used 33.7 %
    Swap Used 10.94 %
    Disk hda3 (/) DMA+ 40 %
    Disk hda1 (/boot) DMA+ 12 %

    how can i find in webhost manager the http.conf?

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    how can i find in webhost manager the http.conf?
    Get a server admin to help you. Who knows what's going on with your server if you have to ask that question. (but the answer is, it's not in WHM)

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    Your server appears to be just fine..

    You cant find httpd.conf in WHM

    For cpanel its located at: /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf

    Either way, you not knowing where it is shows that you haven't optimized, thus I would reccomend reading up on it... or the safest route would be to hire management.. a good one I would reccomend is

    http://www.platinumservermanagement.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adley
    but the status gets red when its over 1.00
    That's just a WHM idiot light and means absolutely nothing. You can even change that if you log into WHM and click on Server Tweak (or something). You can set that at whatever number you want. We have ours set to go "red" when it reaches 2...and that is even a very low number.

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    Server load 1.00 is nothing, some of my servers has load 6.00-11.00 (peak hours) and doing just fine.

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    i got already managed server by servstra.com

    but why the sites are not reaching then? so i have to tweak the http.conf??

    how can i access or edit the http.conf? you said its in /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf

    so i have to access with ftp /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf ?

    i cant access ftp, i restarted ftp server but cant access

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adley
    i got already managed server by servstra.com

    but why the sites are not reaching then? so i have to tweak the http.conf??

    how can i access or edit the http.conf? you said its in /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf

    so i have to access with ftp /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf ?

    i cant access ftp, i restarted ftp server but cant access
    This is accessible via SSH, not FTP.

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    i cant find SSH in webhost manager... i have root access....

    how can I access ssh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adley
    i cant find SSH in webhost manager... i have root access....

    how can I access ssh?
    You need someone to help you with this as it looks like you may be in over your head. Since you're paying for server management, why not have them do it for you?

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    Yeah, I agree with Tina.

    Since you have management, just try asking them to secure and optimize your box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No1Resource
    Yeah, I agree with Tina.

    Since you have management, just try asking them to secure and optimize your box.
    They had optimized, but its still not fixed and I want to learn myself as well...

    so please tell me how to access SSH

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    To access SSH, you can use a command prompt, or an FTP-like client...

    The command prompt:
    http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~s.../download.html

    FTP-like client (SFTP, SCP):
    http://winscp.net/eng/download.php#download2

    Just download one, fill out the server details, and your in.
    Putty (Command Prompt) doesn't require installation.

    Either way there is a lot to learn still..

    Depending on you OS, I or someone else may be able to refer you to a tutorial or something.

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    yes, if you have a server management team, I wouldn't touch anything like http.conf, etc. It is their job, especially if you are not sure about what to do and mostly because you are paying them. If you do changes yourself and something goes wrong, you cannot even blame them cause you might have caused it.

    However, server load of 1.00 really is nothing to worry about...
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    Adley,

    Drop the Servstra people a ticket and ask them to please optimize your Apache for you, and explain to them the trouble you're having. They will fix you up.

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    Hey,

    I setted max_connections=600

    the mysql is not good optimized as wel... but could you tell me, if the server is good at all?

    AMD Barton 3000
    1 GB RAM
    80 GB HDD

    cpsrvd up
    named (9.2.4) up
    httpd (1.3.37 (Unix)) up
    syslogd up
    Server Load 0.88 (1 cpu)
    Memory Used 34.7 %
    Swap Used 9.85 %
    Disk hda3 (/) DMA+ 40 %
    Disk hda1 (/boot) DMA+ 12 %
    I think I will get 1 GB RAM extra, so in total 2 GB RAM...

    or should I take Dual Xeon 2.8GHz HT ?

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    take Dual Xeon because your Memory Used only 34.7 %

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    Getting a new server, or upgrading your current isn't going to fix the problem, especially when it doesn't appear that you have outgrown your current.

    You need to have a server administrator look at it, explain the problem to them.

    No point in throwing money away, when it is probably a fixable problem.

    Just a hunch, ask servstra about your apache maxclients setting, it may be too low.
    Last edited by No1Resource; 11-27-2006 at 11:29 PM.

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    Since these members are telling you to ask the server management to take a look and optimize. It is possible to low CPU load if do optimize. 1.00 load is fine. Just ask them what you need to fix and you will learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midiaworks
    yes, if you have a server management team, I wouldn't touch anything like http.conf, etc. It is their job, especially if you are not sure about what to do and mostly because you are paying them.
    The problem is the server management team is not the developer of your web applications. They do not know how to tweak your httpd.conf/my.cnf/php.ini to work best with your applications.

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