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Thread: has google gone TOO far?
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11-17-2006, 09:50 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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has google gone TOO far?
http://www.google.com/interstitial?u...ng/177256.html
you "should" end up at a google page.
then it goes to a page that says, in part, this
You landed on this page because members of the public reported this website to StopBadware.org as hosting or distributing badware. Though our researchers have not yet reviewed this website, once they do, this warning page will be replaced with a detailed report on the site's badware.
this is really surprising to me.
reeks of spamhaus style vigilante-ism... dont like it.if you haven't considered chapter 7 bankruptcy, maybe you should.
eliminate your debt, keep the property you want, most people qualify.
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11-17-2006, 09:53 PM #2Retired Moderator
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11-17-2006, 10:01 PM #3Retired Moderator
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I got that a few days ago as well. But, it's not Google, it's StopBadware.org. And I have yet to see a site that is not "shady" and get that, so it seems to be doing a terrific job at that.
I was surprised at well, but I really think it will help users that are not as tech savvy as us.Tyler Cole
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11-17-2006, 10:37 PM #4Junior Guru
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Gone too far? No, you can still visit the page if you want and it says so.
reeks of spamhaus style vigilante-ism... dont like it.
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11-17-2006, 10:40 PM #5Disturbed
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I got it the other day too, and I am very happy they are doing it.
Soon sites are going to figure out they will loose traffic from it, and straighten up.
Good job Google, again!
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11-17-2006, 11:12 PM #6Web Hosting Evangelist
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Soon sites are going to figure out they will loose traffic from it
It doesn't say how the site gets flagged other than "reports from the public" but I assume some sort of check is made before this happens. I like the idea, too.IE7 is nine years behind the standards or wrong.
But it works in IE!
"IE is a cancer on the web" -- Paul Thurott
"Avoid hacker-bait apps like Internet Explorer" -- Kevin Mitnick
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11-17-2006, 11:26 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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I think it's a crock of s**** and just a baby step into censorship on the web.
Show your reciprocal links on your website. eReferrer
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11-17-2006, 11:57 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Let me clarify that a little (can't edit my post to add this).
Here's what I think.
If it's illegal, take the site down. If it's not, leave it alone. If it's questionable? don't visit the site yourself but how dare you think you can decide where I should and shouldn't go.
I don't need anyone making decisions on what sites and pages I go to. I also don't want their opinion. Offer it as a service? ok. Then it's an agreement. but to just blatantly do it?
Watch for Google to make one mistake that's going to cost them a fortune in court over it.
1st amendment anyone?Show your reciprocal links on your website. eReferrer
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11-17-2006, 11:59 PM #9Disturbed
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Originally Posted by e-places
The fact of the matter is, spam and malware are killing the internet. Anything that a big company like Goggle can do to help fix this, is great IMO.
And as far a censorship, its not censoring anybody, only warning.
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11-18-2006, 12:00 AM #10Retired Moderator
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11-18-2006, 12:04 AM #11Disturbed
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Originally Posted by e-places
Originally Posted by e-places
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11-18-2006, 12:57 AM #12Disabled
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Google has the right to blacklist anyone they want. It's not like they're preventing you from accessing it. You just copy and paste the link into your address bar, and go on your way.
Originally Posted by e-places
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11-18-2006, 01:15 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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The first amendment protects the people from having the government restrict their speech. So, it doesn't apply in this case.
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11-18-2006, 01:29 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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It's not restricting you from anything, just don't use google to view the website.
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11-18-2006, 01:44 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by csparks
The first amendment covers freedom of assembly and freedom of the press and freedom of religion and freedom of speech. so by censoring it would have certainly been covered. But I reread it and see that it's not.
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11-18-2006, 02:46 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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This isnt new but its good to see google trying to protect people from lowlife scum.
I think there should (if there isnt already) be a policy inplace to contact the domains whois records to let them know they have been listed.
We have Spamhaus for email
And Google for search results.
Also OpenDNS for direct connections.
All theseservices are totally optional to the user so I see it as a good thing the Internet could be so much more if it wernt for Malware and Spam.I could tell you a joke about UDP. But I'm not sure you would get it!
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11-18-2006, 03:31 AM #17Disabled
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Originally Posted by Dan541
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11-18-2006, 03:32 AM #18DigitalPunchCardMaker
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Why are you mad at Google?
It is serving the purpose here. Google is a search engine, and it finds what you're looking for. In this case, you just have copy and paste the URL to your browser.
They just don't want to support spam and malware, by putting a direct hyperlink to their site...
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11-18-2006, 04:36 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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No, I don't think Google has gone too far. They are providing a service free of charge, and therefore are fully within their rights. If you don't like it, then you can use another search engine which doesn't warn users of possible malware being installed on your computer from visiting a certain website.
I think even if Google censored searches, they would be within their rights. They wouldn't be prohibiting you from looking at a website, provided you knew the URL, but simply not linking to that website from their search engine. It's a big technical difference. And again, you would be free to use another search engine which didn't have such practices.
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11-18-2006, 04:39 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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1. the public has reported this and no one has verified it. THAT is problematic.
2. i have paid for software that protects me. that was MY choice.
3. if what they say is true then WHY does google have them listed as #3 on their search engine? why not remove it all together? THAT would be their right to do. i dont remember seeing any disclaimer that they were going to do this.
4. ok, so i dont like you, im going to get some friends together and report YOUR site. great way to eliminate the competition.if you haven't considered chapter 7 bankruptcy, maybe you should.
eliminate your debt, keep the property you want, most people qualify.
contrary to popular belief - no attorney is necessary!
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11-18-2006, 04:47 AM #21Disabled
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Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
2. Who's forcing you to use google?
3. I don't know if you know this or not, but google doesn't manually create each of it's pages.
4. see point 1.
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11-18-2006, 04:49 AM #22Junior Guru
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Over reacting and talking rubbish again.
i have paid for software that protects me. that was MY choice.
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11-18-2006, 05:03 AM #23Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by e-places
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11-18-2006, 05:07 AM #24Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by freak
spyware/malware is bad.
so, why is it listed on google at all? to get traffic for the badware site?if you haven't considered chapter 7 bankruptcy, maybe you should.
eliminate your debt, keep the property you want, most people qualify.
contrary to popular belief - no attorney is necessary!
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11-18-2006, 05:08 AM #25Disabled
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