11-15-2006, 06:12 PM
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DDOS potection. Does it exist?
I have just opened a site that got very popular within the first week and I made alot of webmasters unhappy since all their members are coming to my site. They are now ddosing the socks off of me. I purchased an "anti-ddos server but that only helped a little. If I only keep the main page up everything works fine but when I enable the forum the site completly shuts down due to the extreme ddosing.
So is there anyway to protect myself effectively? or should I just give in to the other webmasters and delete my site?
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11-15-2006, 06:14 PM
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what provider are you using?
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11-15-2006, 06:17 PM
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11-15-2006, 06:54 PM
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Contact http://awknet.com/ and explain the issue you are having.
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11-15-2006, 09:35 PM
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when I enable the forum the site completly shuts down due to the extreme ddosing.
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This doesn't sound like something that's a DDOS issue, more like a poor programming issue. If it was truly a DDOS issue, they would be trying to take your site down completely, not just parts of it.
Go through your system, make sure that the forums are configured properly, and that you have no redirects, because it really sounds like something is wrong, not with a DDOS attack, but with your forums and the configuration thereof.
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11-16-2006, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by linux-tech
This doesn't sound like something that's a DDOS issue, more like a poor programming issue. If it was truly a DDOS issue, they would be trying to take your site down completely, not just parts of it.
Go through your system, make sure that the forums are configured properly, and that you have no redirects, because it really sounds like something is wrong, not with a DDOS attack, but with your forums and the configuration thereof.
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? Well serving a likely static index page vs a DB driven forum is completely different. The attack he could be experiencing is likely a resource starvation attack aimed at overload the server by way of excessive form/DB load. Not all attacks are created equal...
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11-16-2006, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by packetm0nkey
? Well serving a likely static index page vs a DB driven forum is completely different. The attack he could be experiencing is likely a resource starvation attack aimed at overload the server by way of excessive form/DB load. Not all attacks are created equal...
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It depends, from what I see linux-tech is correct. His services doesn't sound like it's distributed throughout many servers so if the forum goes down the static files and site's should also go down if it was a ddos attack. But in his case, the static files continue serving even if the forum is down.
If you are being ddosed, I'd suggest you to install or enable mod_status and find out which IP keeps ddosing you. Then use iptables to block off the IP.
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11-16-2006, 06:25 AM
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It sounds to me like your site is just a victim of its own popularity, and can no longer handle the load. Forum software generates quite a bit of load, so a server can become inaccessible even with modest traffic to a forum.
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11-17-2006, 02:32 PM
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CISSP, CISA
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Originally Posted by |venom|
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Which product did you purchase? We have four diffrent DDoS solutions and it is critical that you be outfitted with the one that best meets your needs.
Dollar for dollar the DDoS protection you would purchase elsewhere would be equal or less to what you're getting now unless you're able to adjust your budget and purchase the correct solution.
Submit a ticket at https://support.blacklotus.net with your exact concern and we will look into the situation. If you already have a ticket number, please PM it to me.
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11-17-2006, 02:36 PM
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|venom|,
I just spoke with my technical support. Is this a shared account? Please feel free to contact me off board if you're not comfortable providing specifics.
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11-17-2006, 02:38 PM
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I, too, am rather suprised at this posting.
The only customer I know of, who is having ddos isues, related to a website, is one of our shared hosting customers.
I have personally worked hand in hand with that customer and have even been on the phone with them.
Their site is coded in php and someone is hitting them with a botnet attack. It is a slow steady attack with about 100 VALID connections every second. Their site was coded in php and the P4 2.8ghz cpu jumps to 70% load when their IP was opened to public.
Once they coded their front page with an access key, to avoid the botnet, their site stabilized.
I'm very curious who this mysterious customer is and why they have not opened a support ticket with us to look into solving the problem.
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