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    What does "sub domains" mean?

    I recently signed up with a web host company and they state there are x number of sub domains. What I want is one web site with my main .com domain to link with 8 other .com domain names that I registered. So when those other domains are typed in, they will also go to my web site. I was thinking this is what sub domains meant, but from what I've briefly read, in a search, I don't think this is what it is at all.

    So...Assuming it isn't, do web hosts generally allow this for basic accounts and how do I set it up?

    Thanks,

    F

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    Parked Domains (or Domain Parking) are domains that point to the main domain account. This is a feature that allows multiple registered domains to point or redirect to a single website.

    Hence, if you own domain.com, you can park domain.net and domain.org iso that if any of the 3 domains are looked up in your browser, the contents of domain.com are shown. Likewise, emails sent to the .net and the .org are also routed to your existing .com emails.


    Ask your host, I'm sure they allow unlimited of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Arneson
    This is called parked domains. Your host probably allows unlimited of them.
    Your partially correct , but parked domain is entirely different story which means say you have a domain called abc.com you can park it on your existing domain xyz.com using the control panel if you have parked domain/addon domain available.

    Subdomains are like 123.abc.com , somename.abc.com whereas parked domain is a domain itself say abc.com just parked or placed on existing domain (provided control panel has feature for same). Thus here 123 becomes a subdomain , and so on...

    Another simple example is forums.somesite.com , where forums is a subdomain.
    12+ years -same website , new server [SSD Inside] providing shared/reseller hosting only !
    These things we do not provide/offer : Unlimited Storage ! Unlimited Bandwidth ! But Why? Cause, we were unable to put such a large number on our pages, it just would not fit.
    So check out the numbers that actually fit >> << the page as well as your budget too !

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    yeah paidhosting is right on the parked domains. different beast.

    as for the subs, maybe this helps?


    subdomain.domain.topleveldomain.secondleveldomain
    someplace.domain.co.uk

    EDIT: Yikes, nevermind, that's confusing
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    I always assumed that parked domains are those pointed to your main domain account but with NO content, you just buy a name and park it, leave until a site appears. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segey
    I always assumed that parked domains are those pointed to your main domain account but with NO content, you just buy a name and park it, leave until a site appears. Am I wrong?
    Yup your wrong, you can put site on parked domains, its confusing to me to this date as to why there are parked domains and addon domains when both of them do almost the same thing.
    12+ years -same website , new server [SSD Inside] providing shared/reseller hosting only !
    These things we do not provide/offer : Unlimited Storage ! Unlimited Bandwidth ! But Why? Cause, we were unable to put such a large number on our pages, it just would not fit.
    So check out the numbers that actually fit >> << the page as well as your budget too !

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    Ok, I think I'm getting the picture. When I sign up with a web host and transfer over my main web address (say fizbin.com) from the other site(s) I registered it with, do I have to transfer over the others as well? The others being the ones that I want to also call up fizbin.com.

    Thanks,

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by paidhosting
    Yup your wrong, you can put site on parked domains, its confusing to me to this date as to why there are parked domains and addon domains when both of them do almost the same thing.
    Thank you, paidhosting, then addon=parked=subdomain?

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    Add-on domains create a folder or directory on your server (for files ...etc).

    Parked domains goto a folder or directory already setup (usually by another (add-on) active domain).

    Thay's how I see it.
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    Maybe subdomains=third level domains??

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    Ok, I think I'm getting the picture.
    I'm suprised, as this thread confuses the heck out of me.

    Anyway, IMO Pat Arneson was right. You do seem to be needing the ability to park domains. Subdomains are clearly not what you're after.

    When I sign up with a web host and transfer over my main web address (say fizbin.com) from the other site(s) I registered it with, do I have to transfer over the others as well? The others being the ones that I want to also call up fizbin.com.
    Your terminology confuses me. Domain transfers have to do with domain registrars. When you transfer a domain, you move it from one registrar to another. This has nothing to do with the hosts (unless the host is/will be your domain's registrar as well).

    Now, to change hosts, you simply need to change the nameservers associated with the domain. The new nameservers help point your domain to the new server. You will have to change the nameservers of all domains you plan to park.

    I hope I'm making sense to you. Good luck!

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    Ok, I'll simply this.

    I have domain names registered with Godaddy and Namecheap. I have now found a host to put up my single web site. I want all the domain names to access my site; not just one domain. I told support, at the host, that I want x amount of domain names, transfered over from GD and NC. The cost is around $10 each to do this. At this point, until we communicate again, they probably believe that I want more than one web site. So do all my domains, not just the main one, have to be transfered over to access my single web site.


    Ok, I think I'm getting the picture. I'm suprised, as this thread confuses the heck out of me.
    About sub domains. After that, I'm lost.


    Jeff

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    Stop telling support that you want to "transfer" your domains. That's not what you want at all, you want to leave them with NameCheap and Godaddy. You simply want to "point" them to your hosting account (you do that via your control panel at NC and GD).

    When you tell them that you want to "transfer" your domain, they think you want to simply have them handle your domain name registration/renewal. From what you've said, you don't want that at all - you simply want to point/park extra domains to your existing hosting account's main page.

    Addon Domains (not what you want): yourdomain2.com points to yourdomain1.com/directory

    Subdomain
    (not what you want): subdomain.yourdomain1.com usually points to yourdomain1.com/directory

    Parked (what you want): yourdomain2.com points to yourdomain1.com

    The only difference between an Addon and a Subdomain is that an Addon uses a true domain name. A Subdomain allows you to use whatever.yourdomain.com ("whatever" being the subdomain part - and it can be whatever you wish it to be). For example, we use http://support.axishost.com , http://secure.axishost.com, etc. as our subdomains.

    Again, a Subdomain and Addon is not what you want. You want to Park some domains on top of your existing main one - so that they all display the same webpage.


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    You beat me to it. I just came back to say that support has put me in the right direction (point them to the host). Being the newbie at this that I am, I thought that at least one of them had to transfered to the host. Duh!

    Anyway, I have gone in to GD and NC and made the changes.

    Thanks,

    Jeff

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    subdomain:
    When you add another part in front of the domain name, we call it subdomain.

    example: sub1.example.com <== sub1 is a subdomain of example.com.

    Now, subdomain can be hosted on the same server or on different one.
    This is usually done by DNS setup.

    When you host subdomain on the same server as the main domain,
    it can be placed in the subdirectory of main domain (cPaenl do this way, I guess),
    or it can be any directory within your home directory (DreamHost, Servage, etc),
    depending on the setup of the host.

    Some hosts have "wildcard subdomain" meaning all subdomain to show the contents of the main site (unless configured otherwise).
    (You need to have wildcard DNS, too, for this to work. )

    Many hosts comes with the "wildcard subdomain", already setup by default.
    Some hosts require user to contact support for it, but no big deal.

    Some hosts limit the number of subdomains, somehow, and I tend to avoid them.


    Parked domain:
    Any domain can be parked on any place.
    It can be main domain, subdomain, whatever, providing DNS is setup to point to the server and the web server is configured to serve from the desired directory.

    Some hosts don't have proper setup for "addon domains", and all they provide is "parked domain" in reality.
    But they allow users to create a kind of "addon domains" using mod_rewrite (RewriteRule).
    It works most of the time, but there are some issues and users may have to tweak scripts a bit.

    Setting up and maintaining RewriteRules aren't very easy for beginners.
    To create efficient and exact rule for complex site is a tedious job and not so many people knows well about it, somehow.

    We can do similar thing without mod_rewrite, by using wrapper CGI/PHP script, too.


    Some hosts allow unlimited "parked domain".
    Some allow only small amount of them.

    A host may prohibit the use of "parked domain" as "addon domain".

    Often, "parked domain" is used for the "alias" to the main domain.
    example: "example.org" parked on the "example.com"

    You can also park many domains on the "under construction" page, for example.
    By using SSI or script, the same page can create different result, if you prefer, as well.

    Also, it can be used by scummers to guide you to the dame damn porn site when you type any domain name they happen to own.


    Addon domain:
    Many hosts allow users to host many domains (site) within one account.
    Sometime, these accounts are called multi-site account.

    Usually, there is an interface for setting up addon domains in the control panel.
    While good control panel allow users to place the addon domain in any direcotry they want, stupid one will automatically put it in certain place (usually in the sub directory of primary doman).

    When you put addon domain (or subdomain) in the subdirectory of other domain, you loose the separation.
    Visitors can access the contents of the addon domain by a URL like this:
    http://www.example.com/addon_domain_dir/

    This may cause security problem, and possibly google ranking problem, as well.
    You can avoid this by using RewriteRule and prohibiting this way of accessing, or by simply choosing a host with better control panel and place the domain in separate direcotry.

    Many hosts limit the number of addon domains.
    But some hosts allows unlimited number of domains to be added.
    For users who would like to have many test sites, hobby sites, it's important to have a good control panel and a host that allows larger number of addon domains.

    When a host offers addon domains, they can be used as parked domains, if the host has good control panel that allows to put the domain in any directory.


    Addon domain can come in many different flavors, depending on the host.
    It may include separate raw log, separate stats program, separate username/password, separate control panel login, separate bandwidth accounting, and so on.

    For some users, these small details are important, while other people may not care at all.
    Many hosts doesn't inform users well about these diferrences.
    Some make big fuss about small differences, though.


    DNS and virtual host setting:
    To control domains, we need to setup both DNS and virtual host configuration.
    Usually, both are done by the host.

    But it's more and more common to use the DNS from someone else to avoid your domain names takes as the hostage in addition to your site by some bad hosts.
    If you do so, you have to take care of DNS by yourself, and let the host take care of the virtual host setup, which is normally done automatically by control panel operation.
    (Otherwise, incompetent hosts wouldn't be able to handle it. )

    In other words, it's important to check both DNS setup and virtual host configuration when you have a problem, in addition to any other checks.

    Also, you may want to check if correct DNS is specified with whois site/interface.
    (And the common mistake of forgetting to pay for the domain renewal....)
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