View Poll Results: What do you think of the new layout?

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  • I like it.

    11 6.79%
  • I don't like it.

    115 70.99%
  • I'm easy.

    12 7.41%
  • Back to the drawing board.

    17 10.49%
  • I suggest an alternative.

    7 4.32%
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  1. #51
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    Think we've got enough ads here, WHT?

    I count 15 total with two for rackspace.

    Almost forgot that one on the right.

    So, we making enough revenue now?
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocebo
    Think we've got enough ads here, WHT?

    I count 15 total with two for rackspace.

    Almost forgot that one on the right.

    So, we making enough revenue now?
    Nope, not enough at all. Watch them put ads between posts
    At least this is how I feel this is all going to turn out
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  3. #53
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    Woops, almost forgot one!

    We're up to 16 now! Let's play the "can-anyone-find-more-ads" game!
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  4. #54
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    honestly i would prefer an ad between posts then this piece of crap on the right
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven
    honestly i would prefer an ad between posts then this piece of crap on the right
    Me too - I was just going to add that to my post.

    We're up to 16 now! Let's play the "can-anyone-find-more-ads" game!
    Don't forget about the ads on whtirc.com
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  6. #56
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    How funny - I just blocked ALL images from webhostingtalk/inet/the ads on the side/top and I still get about 4 or 5 large ads, including the flash ones I can't block.

    Page looks like a disaster area
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  7. #57
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    redirect the hostnames to 127.0.0.1 in your hosts file.
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  8. #58
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    Let me just say: http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org

    Code:
    var my_tds=document.getElementsByTagName('TD');
    for (var i=0;i<my_tds.length;i++){
            if (my_tds[i].getAttribute('width') =='200'){
                    my_tds[i].style.display='none';
                    break;
            }
    }
    And the forum is back to normal
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasha
    Let me just say: http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org

    Code:
    var my_tds=document.getElementsByTagName('TD');
    for (var i=0;i<my_tds.length;i++){
            if (my_tds[i].getAttribute('width') =='200'){
                    my_tds[i].style.display='none';
                    break;
            }
    }
    And the forum is back to normal

    Actually I was just installing the plugin. Thanks for saving me the trouble
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  10. #60
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    another thing I dislike is they moved the news down the page, i enjoyed reading the news.
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  11. #61
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    Very cool plugin, page looks much nicer
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  12. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieHosts
    I can't, when some people think that their 30 bucks should get them 6 months advertising-free forum usage on a monster such as WHT.
    Anyone looking at the CPM for those top banners now has a totally different product than it was previously. In the past, the top banner has been pretty close to a sole ad on most pages. Now it bows to the skyscraper ad on the right.

    My company have advertised rather frequently on this forum over the past 3+ years using the top banner and forum-specific banners at the advertised rates. I would not pay those rates in the future, due to the skyscraper now dominating the scenery.


    All that would happen then is we'd go full circle back to a few WHT clones popping up in protest again, and then they'd simply be forgotten in a few weeks and things will carry on here regardless.
    I do agree with you on that point.

    Advetisers here are chasing the newcomer who turned up at WHT via a "web hosting" click on Google. They're not going to be converting the masses of regulars overnight. iNet have got the bigger picture well and truly down pat.
    But to advertise to the masses, they need to keep their core advertisers happy. I wonder how many of those advertisers know that their ad has just been over-shadowed by a sky-scraper ad that now dominates the page. As far as I am aware, advertisers did not get notified of the change in layout and that is also a major "oops" on iNet's part and I do believe that unless there's a price change for the other ad spots, they will lose money with this move. Sometimes, less really is more.

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  13. #63
    Hey, the number of advertisements on WHT is in correlation with the saturation of the Shared Hosting market.
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  14. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
    Then how about raising pricing for advertisers, if demand exceeds supply?
    Yep, definitely a great idea.

    For a moment I thought "Why not just show this to anonymous users?" but the IntelliText is already present for them and I'm worried too many ads will discourage folks from signing up.
    If you have to operate your company behind the scenes or under a fake name, maybe it's time to leave the industry and start something fresh.
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  15. #65
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    i dont think it is too bad, there are many other big forums a lot worse than this, plus when there is a change, members tend to complain (such as: inet toolbar, or previous design updates)
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  16. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHSL
    Anyone looking at the CPM for those top banners now has a totally different product than it was previously. In the past, the top banner has been pretty close to a sole ad on most pages. Now it bows to the skyscraper ad on the right.
    They're aimed at different targets. Large rectangle banners are good for raising brand awareness, whilst the skyscraper ads are good for brand association and intent (i.e for the already established "household" names).

    Some advertisers wouldn't waste time with top/bottom rectangular banners, and others wont be phased at all by the skyscraper ads.

    In the meantime, everything else will carry on as normal.

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  17. #67
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    Hi,

    Well, I personally don't have a problem with this when browsing on my Desktop with a 19 inch monitor but when working with my 12.1-inch widescreen Dell Laptop, this really limits my ability to browse through WHT the way I'm used to :\ Hopefully we can come up with an alternative solution here. (Both are on 1280x resolution by the way)

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  18. #68
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    WHT has gone downhill in the last year or so and I think this is the latest thing to prove it

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  19. #69
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    Sure am glad for greasemonkey, if it were not for it I would not be on WHT now, because it is just too annoying.
    AdBlock was working to block the stupid skyscraper, but the box is just so huge.
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  20. #70
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    It does not affect me much, I am using a bigger resolution and I have ads blocked. Although I think iNet should remove the banners for premium members.
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  21. #71
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    Did Hurricane Katrina pass over WHT just now?
    I don't mind an extra ad - say, in the middle of the page with a horizontal banner.. but this version creates so much dead space to the right.. eesh..
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  22. #72
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    It also reaks havoc with accesibility software I have on my computer. There should be an option to turn it off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artashes
    Did Hurricane Katrina pass over WHT just now?
    I don't mind an extra ad - say, in the middle of the page with a horizontal banner.. but this version creates so much dead space to the right.. eesh..
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  23. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artashes
    Did Hurricane Katrina pass over WHT just now?
    I don't mind an extra ad - say, in the middle of the page with a horizontal banner.. but this version creates so much dead space to the right.. eesh..
    Yeah, it looks crap, and that's being nice.

    If there's more demand than supply for current advertising (as was indicated earlier in this thread) then for crying out loud, increase your freakin' advertising rates, rather than increasing banner inventory. By adding more banner inventory, they have devalued the existing banner spots, and negatively impacted a lot of your loyal members.
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  24. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
    , and negatively impacted a lot of your loyal members.
    What are you going to do with it? Everyone will still come back to this forum.
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  25. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artashes
    but this version creates so much dead space to the right.. eesh..
    There is no saying that iNet won't put an extra bottom vertical banner.
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