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Hi all,
Our curent host has just cancelled our subscription (as of December) as we are on a shared server and with the amount of traffic we have it's causing them huge problems.
I understand why they've had to do it but now we desperately need a new host.
We use about 4GB disk space including databases though we can probably reduce this if necessary.
Bandwidth-wise we use somewhere between 50GB and 100GB a month and we've very occassionally gone over this.
We have approximately 3 million page views a month.
Cost wise, we're pretty desperate so I can't be too picky about the price but if someone can suggest how much they think we should be paying it'd be great.
The problem is the huge database load that we're creating through MySQL which continually crashes due to too many connections on our current host.
Does anyone have any host suggestions?
I have no experience with admining servers so I assume we need a managed server with everything set up and ready to go?
Any help or advise would be superb.
Thanks.
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11-09-2006, 06:15 AM
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Hi Rob,
Sorry to hear about your problems,
Looks like you need a managed dedicated server that would suit your site specifically, I think from what you were saying you would be looking at atleast $500 a month depending on a few details.
Your disk space and bandwidth is no problem, but that many visitors with large database, you want a good server to handle it.
If i can help in anyway just add me to msn or reply here. 
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11-09-2006, 06:24 AM
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Thanks for the reply.
Could you explain where you get the $500 figure from as that'd be extremely useful.
I'm currently looking at steadfast.net and the following:
Athlon64 3500+
2.2Ghz 512KB Cache Athlon64
250 GB SATA II Hard Drive
1 GB DDR2 SDRAM
Silver Management
Remote Reboot Port
Availability: In Stock
1200GB Bandwidth (100 Mbit/sec port)
- $149.95 per month | $49.95 Setup
Could you explain why the above wouldn't be suitable.
Thanks
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11-09-2006, 06:28 AM
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Silver management is not Fully Managed ! If you are not confident to undertake updates etc...then get the Gold Package add-on for $75 per month.
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11-09-2006, 06:31 AM
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Yep, I was thinking the same thing, which puts it around the $250 mark once you have red hat installed.
That's still very far away from $500 though...
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11-09-2006, 06:31 AM
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If you were going for that, make sure that the RAM is 2GB RAM at least and another drive in place. Either separate /var from the main drive or you put it on RAID-1. I believe they've got offsite backup for you to use on, backup your data to remote location.
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11-09-2006, 06:36 AM
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DedicatedPlace.com also seem to have fully managed packages for between $100 and $150 a month fully managed.
Their enterprise level servers are "Advanced Level Server Plans excellent for Web Hosting Business, Busy Websites that needs at least Dual CPU Power. Prices ranging from $199 a month Dual Xeon 2.8"
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11-09-2006, 06:44 AM
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Sorry Rob, I will explain :
Your site has 3 million views a month and a "huge" mysql database , so you should aim for at least a Dual Core Opteron if not a quad core and around 4gb Ram + you want raid1,which in total is going to cost around $400 so + $100 managed fee $500.
I mean you could get a lower end server and try it for 1 month and upgrade if you need to, It would also help to know what the mysql database is for and how/why its accessed.
Hope that helps.
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11-09-2006, 06:46 AM
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If you read their forum, they look to have been having a few problems with the Databank DC ???
Although this was in Oct, they also had probs in Aug so ask a pre-sale question and see what they say...
I am in the market for a dedicated as well...and like the look of their $80 option...
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11-09-2006, 06:48 AM
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Also , how huge is huge ???
I have a couple of large databases (200mb) and they are running on one of my reseller accounts !
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11-09-2006, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TrafalgarWeb
Sorry Rob, I will explain :
Your site has 3 million views a month and a "huge" mysql database , so you should aim for at least a Dual Core Opteron if not a quad core and around 4gb Ram + you want raid1,which in total is going to cost around $400 so + $100 managed fee $500.
I mean you could get a lower end server and try it for 1 month and upgrade if you need to, It would also help to know what the mysql database is for and how/why its accessed.
Hope that helps.
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Sorry, I think I might have given slightly the wrong impression.
Compared to a lot of sites I've been reading about on here the database isn't huge in any way.
We have a 100MB-150MB MySQL database and we're running a fairly busy CMS and Forums. For the CMS we're using we have one of the busier sites I believe but the database size is nothing compared to some of the vbulletin database I've seen mentioned in previous posts on here.
We do get an average of 100,000 page views a day (3 million a month) and a large amount of this is through our forums (over 50%).
We've been on shared hosting for the past 2 years and have been more or less ok but during peak periods we crash due to the high MySQL load (as you'd expect on a shared server) or run out of MySQL connections.
I really appreciate the response yoy guys have managed so far, hopefully I'll be able to sort something with a little bit more advice.
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11-09-2006, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RobParker
Sorry, I think I might have given slightly the wrong impression.
Compared to a lot of sites I've been reading about on here the database isn't huge in any way.
We have a 100MB-150MB MySQL database and we're running a fairly busy CMS and Forums. For the CMS we're using we have one of the busier sites I believe but the database size is nothing compared to some of the vbulletin database I've seen mentioned in previous posts on here.
We do get an average of 100,000 page views a day (3 million a month) and a large amount of this is through our forums (over 50%).
We've been on shared hosting for the past 2 years and have been more or less ok but during peak periods we crash due to the high MySQL load (as you'd expect on a shared server) or run out of MySQL connections.
I really appreciate the response yoy guys have managed so far, hopefully I'll be able to sort something with a little bit more advice.
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Ah thats not what i call huge
Well you would be ok on a low end server , but if you want proper management (not dedicatedplace's part management) you should be looking at around $250 for a good server with 2gb ram and raid1 etc.
You can look in the offers and requests section , thats the place where companies are allowed to post their offers 
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11-09-2006, 06:59 AM
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A dedicated single CPU server with 512mb ram will meet your needs at the minute. I would go for the fully managed option though.
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11-09-2006, 07:04 AM
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http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=561085
Leaseweb are offering good deals at the minute....
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11-09-2006, 07:05 AM
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No it wouldn't a single cpu perhaps, but if you are getting 100,000 users a day a dual core would perhaps be better, and definetly not 512mb ram, that would not run a small - midsized site/forum with that many visitors, 1gb would , 2gb to be safe.
Full Management will cost from around $75 extra, so if you see a price subtract at least $50 from it and thats the servers price
So say someone is advertising a dedicated for $80 managed, Subtract $50 , so the server is worth $30 ??
Or in reality the server is worth $59 and the rest is markup , no charge for management = its not fully managed as you can see from their site.
Good Luck in your hunt 
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