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    NYC Datacenters?

    I have experience with Telehouse at 25 Broadway and they're not ideal:
    - Very power-constrained - extra power is very costly
    - Cooling is not consistant - no hot/cold rows design
    - Expensive

    I'm looking for another facility for a new business and wonder if anyone has experience in the area. NYC, accessible via subway is ideal (111 8th?), but would consider NJ or Westchester.


    Any thoughts appreciated.

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    digitalproviders.net (decent network, prices are mid-range)
    datagram.net (right across the street from telehouse -- may sign up with them soon. Not many reviews though)
    voxel (you would need to call them to get more info -- I believe the cheapest one they have is their own DC at 150 varick; personally I think they give a great deal on their b/w but the pricing for power / cooling is aligned with rest of NYC).

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    I would stay away from datagram. Perhaps look into thorn.net they are quite good. Have space at 11 broadway and 75 broad.
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    www.fortressitx.com in Clifton, NJ?
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    Just curious, what is bad about DataGram?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdrussell
    www.fortressitx.com in Clifton, NJ?
    Yes, that is where we are located.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfmnyc
    NYC, accessible via subway is ideal (111 8th?)
    We have cabinets at 111 8th Ave. (in addition to 25 Broadway), and it's an excellent building to be in. It has solid infrastructure and a generator farm that can power the building for weeks.

    At 111 8th, you can either go directly with the building's meet-me-room (http://www.nyc-connect.com/ ), or through a tenant of the building such as Level 3, Sprint, or Switch & Data. A list of direct tenants is listed here:

    http://www.111eighth.com/tenants.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by dednowjay
    Yes, that is where we are located.
    I was recommending you. I know where you are
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    datagram is now moving all their stuff to telehouse.

    telehouse = expensive power = expensive colo

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    Quote Originally Posted by bqinternet
    We have cabinets at 111 8th Ave. (in addition to 25 Broadway), and it's an excellent building to be in. It has solid infrastructure and a generator farm that can power the building for weeks.

    At 111 8th, you can either go directly with the building's meet-me-room (http://www.nyc-connect.com/ ), or through a tenant of the building such as Level 3, Sprint, or Switch & Data. A list of direct tenants is listed here:

    http://www.111eighth.com/tenants.htm

    Right but you call them at 3am they aren't there, and they don't know much about linux or fixing boxes either. FYI we do also have space there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayglate
    Right but you call them at 3am they aren't there, and they don't know much about linux or fixing boxes either. FYI we do also have space there.
    The same could be said for just about any colocation provider in the building, or just any other places. If you need remote hands work done, contract for support with one of the many companies or individuals that do work in the NYC carrier hotels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bqinternet
    The same could be said for just about any colocation provider in the building, or just any other places. If you need remote hands work done, contract for support with one of the many companies or individuals that do work in the NYC carrier hotels.

    True, but you are still 15 to 2 hrs before they a) can get there or b) are even available. And there are other providers in that building that do have 24/7 onsite staff.
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    Thanks

    Helpful info - thank you.
    For us, remote hands aren't critical, since our corporate offices will also be in NYC. Our main priority is uptime, cost & good cooling.

    John

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    Did you check webair.com ? They are my choice for East Coast (Colo or Dedicated).

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    webair.com does provide good services.

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    Equinix in Newark is a good site but I bet they are full by now.
    I used to colo at Savvis, not the best experience.

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    Anyone have any experiences with the cogent dc on 33 whitehall?

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    datagram runs it and they are horriable. besides why would you want to go there when you could be across the street at 25 broadway with tons of carriers instead?
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    Not sure if you've been in touch with telehouse's sales team, but I have and the pricing for power is a bit more than anywhere else. some of the servers i'm looking to collocate could be considered fairly power hungry.

    I was under the impression that datagram and cogent had seperate floors within that building -- that they were run by completely seperate management.

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    Its NYC its going to be expensive no matter where you go.

    No they do not. I have offices in 33 whitehall. They are on the 30th floor. Datagram has a deal with cogent to manage their facilities in exchange for free racks and power etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfmnyc
    I have experience with Telehouse at 25 Broadway and they're not ideal:
    - Very power-constrained - extra power is very costly
    - Cooling is not consistant - no hot/cold rows design
    - Expensive

    I'm looking for another facility for a new business and wonder if anyone has experience in the area. NYC, accessible via subway is ideal (111 8th?), but would consider NJ or Westchester.


    Any thoughts appreciated.
    Hello,

    We have space in both 111 8th and 75 broad and cooling have been quite consistent, ambient temperature is about 72 degrees at both our locations. Although power hungry server such as blade servers might not be ideal, power does not seem to be a problem. How much do you pay for additional power at Telehouse?
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    We have our own rack at 25 Broadway and it's a pretty easy trip from New Jersey. I usually take the train to Penn station and take the subway to Rector st, walk half a block and I'm there. Some of the techs are really dull, although Tom is a huge help if you need tools or a crash cart

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    Quote Originally Posted by rey
    How much do you pay for additional power at Telehouse?
    A healthy kidney. Last I heard Telehouse was somewhere between $20 and $25/amp, but it might be more or less now.


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    How about Level(3)?

    How about Level(3) through a reseller?

    http://www.co-location.com/co-locati...kcityfull.html

    Now limit 30amps per cabinet but I believe the pricing is cheaper than $20/25 AMP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart Matusiak
    We have our own rack at 25 Broadway and it's a pretty easy trip from New Jersey. I usually take the train to Penn station and take the subway to Rector st, walk half a block and I'm there. Some of the techs are really dull, although Tom is a huge help if you need tools or a crash cart
    Sounds good ... until you have to install servers Not to mention if you have to bring your equipments after hour.

    Oh ... How I hate those datacenters in NYC, especially with all the labor unions
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    Quote Originally Posted by FHDave
    Sounds good ... until you have to install servers Not to mention if you have to bring your equipments after hour.

    Oh ... How I hate those datacenters in NYC, especially with all the labor unions
    I install servers all the time.. I usually take my car if that's the case, leave it in the lobby with the escort and park the car on the other side of the building. Or, I just ship the servers there. They are fine for me

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    It looks like the only big colocation players in or around NYC are:

    1. digitalproviders.net (decent network, prices are mid-range)
    2. datagram.net (right across the street from telehouse -- may sign up with them soon. Not many reviews though)
    3. thorn.net
    4. webair.com
    5. fortressitx.com in Clifton, NJ

    Only 5 providers in such a big city?

    I need to buy one full rack/30A/40U/24x7 access and support/256 IP/10Mbit/KVM and it seems like noone can offer this package at a good price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36795811
    It looks like the only big colocation players in or around NYC are:

    1. digitalproviders.net (decent network, prices are mid-range)
    2. datagram.net (right across the street from telehouse -- may sign up with them soon. Not many reviews though)
    3. thorn.net
    4. webair.com
    5. fortressitx.com in Clifton, NJ

    Only 5 providers in such a big city?

    I need to buy one full rack/30A/40U/24x7 access and support/256 IP/10Mbit/KVM and it seems like noone can offer this package at a good price.
    What about NYC-Connect at 111 Eighth? Or Voxel (I don't think they do small colo anymore, but they probably could set you up with a cab somewhere)? New York is one of the more expensive locations for colo becuase power in New York is so expensive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 36795811
    It looks like the only big colocation players in or around NYC are:

    1. digitalproviders.net (decent network, prices are mid-range)
    2. datagram.net (right across the street from telehouse -- may sign up with them soon. Not many reviews though)
    3. thorn.net
    4. webair.com
    5. fortressitx.com in Clifton, NJ

    Only 5 providers in such a big city?

    I need to buy one full rack/30A/40U/24x7 access and support/256 IP/10Mbit/KVM and it seems like noone can offer this package at a good price.

    NYI located downtown
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    Quote Originally Posted by empoweri
    NYI located downtown
    Thank you, but price in NYI is very high. Maybe they have gold racks, I don't know.
    For this price I can make my own little DC with 3-5 racks and 12x6 support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adb22791
    What about NYC-Connect at 111 Eighth? Or Voxel (I don't think they do small colo anymore, but they probably could set you up with a cab somewhere)? New York is one of the more expensive locations for colo becuase power in New York is so expensive.
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    Maybe, but I am not sure. I need the company, who gave me 1 rack, power and IP. Buildings never will be working with so small company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36795811
    Maybe, but I am not sure. I need the company, who gave me 1 rack, power and IP. Buildings never will be working with so small company.

    http://www.nyc-connect.com/



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    Quote Originally Posted by adb22791
    Are you sure NYCC offers IP Transit?

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    They don't they are a meet-me-room for carriers and dc's to buy and sell traffic. Also companies like bqinternet colo there to get access to these carriers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayglate
    They don't they are a meet-me-room for carriers and dc's to buy and sell traffic. Also companies like bqinternet colo there to get access to these carriers.
    Yes, I thought so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adb22791
    A healthy kidney. Last I heard Telehouse was somewhere between $20 and $25/amp, but it might be more or less now.


    Alex
    Oh, if only Telehouse power were that cheap. Try doubling your figure We've had a generally positive experience with Telehouse at 25 Broadway, but if you need a lot of power, you'll pay for it. To balance it out, Telehouse does have fair pricing for rackspace, and the cross-connects are a one-time fee instead of monthly, which can easily add up to savings of thousands of dollars per year. For many people, when it comes down to it, the costs may end up being the same as any other facility... it just depends on your power, space, and cross-connect requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by layer0
    Are you sure NYCC offers IP Transit?
    No, but there are plenty of companies located in their Meet-Me-Room who offer IP Transit.


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    Nobody has mentioned about PEER1's NYC Datacenter at 75 Broad St. Or did I miss the post. They are very reliable and price is quite competative considering the NYC prices from various colo providers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIMESWAY
    Nobody has mentioned about PEER1's NYC Datacenter at 75 Broad St. Or did I miss the post. They are very reliable and price is quite competative considering the NYC prices from various colo providers.
    $1600 for a rack without bandwidth and no remote hands isn't competitive at all IMO. Plus the fact they charge $140/mbps overage when you use their network...

    Granted they are very good (and we have used them); however you can get just as good elsewhere in NYC for a much lower price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorBlue - Dan
    $1600 for a rack without bandwidth and no remote hands isn't competitive at all IMO. Plus the fact they charge $140/mbps overage when you use their network...

    Granted they are very good (and we have used them); however you can get just as good elsewhere in NYC for a much lower price.

    Dan
    Hmm, in my personal experience with Peer1 in NYC they were exceedingly willing to compete on price/price-match their competition in NY/NJ. This was about two years ago, so things may have changed. I ultimately ended up shying away from Peer1 then because they did not have staff onsite 24/7.

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