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11-01-2006, 03:27 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Do you have any experience of hosting FORUMS with Dreamhos and ******?
I want to launch a new FORUM website, I am considering to host it with Dreamhost or ******.
Do you have any experience of hosting FORUMS with them?
My main concern is speed.
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11-01-2006, 03:31 PM #2Web Hosting Evangelist
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Both hosts are a popular subject on these forums so you can try for some immediate responces : )
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11-01-2006, 03:33 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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I have a sort of forum at DreamHost. Fortunately, I don't have any speed issue.
But the program is written by myself and highly optimized.
Almost all forum pages are cached and served as static html data.
So, CGI is working only when people post, edit or search (and when I do admin tasks).
If you use one of popular but heavy PHP forums and if you have lots of users,
you may encounter some problems (unless you do lots of optimization).
I don't know well about ******.
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11-01-2006, 03:38 PM #4Predatory Poster
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dreamhost will probably be fine for you. You might be dissappointed with speed on both hosts. If you really care you can always get a dedicated server and highly optimize the backend software your forum runs on.
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11-01-2006, 03:39 PM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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Thank you for fast responses.
its relaunch of my forum, so expected traffic is:
SMF Forum software
20K+ posts( in backed database )
3000+ users
Avg user online at a time : 20
Most user online : ~120 something
This site was previously hosted on NETFIRMS. and they S****
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11-01-2006, 03:56 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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In my case, I don't use MySQL data base, because that's where lots of badly written PHP apps can cause the slowness.
I tend to think it's more of the lcuk to land on the right server (or cluster) with good neighbors.
And I have been relatively lucky.
Even with a "good" host, you may land on the server with a few abusing people,
and you can have some issues until the host takes care of them (by moving them, shutting down their sites or scripts).
A host like DreamHost is free and permissible, and it also means not very strict (nor quick) about controling abusers.
On the other hand, you can be treated as an abuser (if you use heavy forum), and then you'd prefer a relaxed host rather than a host with very tight control.
Also, you should check if you can optimize SMF, further.
Go and ask their user forum to see if you can apply agressive caching on it, possibly removing some features.
These efforts can make difference between staying on a cheap shared hosting or going to a lot more expensive solutions.
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11-01-2006, 03:58 PM #7Disabled
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i would recommend a vps
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11-01-2006, 04:56 PM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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The DH specs are good, I think:
Disk Storage at signup - 200 GB
Automatically Increases Weekly By: 1 GB
Monthly Bandwidth at signup - 2 TB
Automatically Increases Weekly By: 16 GB
MySQL Databases - Unlimited
Looks good to me!
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11-01-2006, 04:58 PM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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May I ask what hosting, if any, WHT uses?
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11-01-2006, 05:00 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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I wouldn't chance the site on a company that oversells to those degrees.
I'd recommend doing a search for either company before pursuing them further!
With a forum you're going to want decent speed to keep users around: If the forum is unusable they'll go somewhere else. With a static site that doesn't rely on mysql/php -- you'd be great on either host as only uptime would really matter.
With a forum that's relying on a good database speed and overall server load: I would say go with a host that oversells to a lot less of a degree.
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11-01-2006, 05:07 PM #11Junior Guru Wannabe
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With a static site that doesn't rely on mysql/php -- you'd be great on either host as only uptime would really matter
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11-01-2006, 05:09 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Willdex
With a forum that's relying on a good database speed and overall server load: I would say go with a host that oversells to a lot less of a degree.
You'll want something smaller packagewise and from a host with a decent reputation.
With those types of prices even using the amount they're offering is going to be next to impossible with a dynamic site (forum/joomla) so it's best to get something a bit more realistic.
Note: My apologies for any earlier confusion! I'll admit my spew was a tad ambiguous.Last edited by David; 11-01-2006 at 05:14 PM.
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11-01-2006, 05:16 PM #13Junior Guru Wannabe
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a bit more realistic
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11-01-2006, 05:18 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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Here's the most recent review I can find on dreamhost that contains the word forum:
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...orum+dreamhost
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11-01-2006, 05:24 PM #15.
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Originally Posted by Willdex
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11-01-2006, 06:13 PM #16Retired Moderator
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1. With a forum, expecting to pay $1 per GB of data transfer used (or as close to it as possible) is not a bad idea.
2. Hosting, even at that level, is cheap.
3. Make the forum sustain itself (ads are the more common choice).
4. If forum users don't want ads on a forum they use for no fee, they're unreasonable. Focus on the reasonable ones.
5.My main concern is speed.Last edited by ldcdc; 11-01-2006 at 06:19 PM.
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11-01-2006, 08:14 PM #17Junior Guru Wannabe
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Thank you for that great piece of advice ldcdc.
I was not using ads, just bcoz it was a new community.
I have searched all over, and made two finalists DREAMHOST and ******
DREAMHOST's has no live presentative to chat with,
But I managed to catch one @ ******, and I think I will go with ******. The deal is :
100 GB/1000GB
upto 6 websites ( good for TESTING websites )
for $96 via PAYPAL(+point) for 30 months hosting ($3.20/month)
Please Do tell me If I am making a mistake, I dont want to loose my site again.
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11-01-2006, 09:03 PM #18Retired Moderator
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Please Do tell me If I am making a mistake, I dont want to loose my site again.
I highly recommend you to use http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php and search for the name of any company you're considering using, and carefully read the reviews you find about them. If the results are too numerous, choose the "Search titles only" option to get to the more meaningful threads.
Good luck!
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11-01-2006, 09:17 PM #19Newbie
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Originally Posted by vivsin
Reasons behind it are:
# They will restrict you in terms of resources.
# They will restrict you in terms of per day data transfer, hits.
# They even keep the records of per day, per hour, per week hits, traffic, pages view and data transfer and they will restrict you from it.
# They are clustered servers which is very very bad for SEO
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11-01-2006, 10:35 PM #20Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by vivsin
Whoever you go with, keep good, regular backups - I have a feeling you're going to need them.Chris
"Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them." - Laurence J. Peter
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11-03-2006, 05:23 PM #21Junior Guru Wannabe
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Oh my GOD, Thanks to ldcdc for advising search features.
I cant find a single happy man who is using ******.
I am lost, I know what to do, where to go.
@ foobic:
Here are the problems I faced with NF
- they closed my account just after a week of purchas bcoz my IP addresses used to Make the payment and Login into control panel were different. ( no problem, they want to avoid fraud )
At this time I was cool with it ( they converted my paid account into a free account with 25MB total space ) My site was safe.
- After this I talked to them ( they suck in support area too ), There responses were Useless, after 100 mins on phone I made them understand that My developer lives in different country so IP problem will always be there. they said its ok.
- 2 months later when I got 10K paid posts on my website it was down again for same problem (account was instantly converted into FREE account with 25 MB), I talked to them, they said sorry, BUT DATABASE was missing.
- A lot of boom bang on phone afterthat, but no result.
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11-04-2006, 06:02 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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With an average of 20 users and a maximum of ~120 on at the same time you should start by looking at a VPS and then possibly aim at a dedicated server.
You should not under any circumstances go with a shared solution for a forum with the requirements listed above.
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11-04-2006, 06:15 PM #23Junior Guru Wannabe
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What minimum configuration (for now, as they can be upgraded later once site is properly up again) I should use for VPS to host my forum?
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11-04-2006, 07:00 PM #24Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by vivsin
The servers what the VPS will be hosted on should be dual core/dual CPU.Recommended: Stablehost, Hivelocity, Fused
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11-04-2006, 08:37 PM #25Junior Guru Wannabe
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Look what I've found: http://www.dreamhost-sucks.com/