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  1. #1
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    Is any host this fast?

    I just ran this traceroute on a TV station's website in Nashville, TN from Phoenix, AZ. I don't know much about traceroutes, but it looks extremely fast to me; and it looks like they are hosting with Yahoo (Geocities?). However, I've never seen a Geocities site load this fast, so I 'm unsure about that. What do you think? Is this fast, and are there any hosts that post here that are this fast?

    Traceroute Output
    FROM dragon.getnet.net TO newschannel5.com.

    traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 63.137.32.5 @ hme0 traceroute to newschannel5.com (216.188.37.7), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets

    1 phnx-gw (63.137.32.1) 1.797 ms 0.903 ms 1.291 ms

    2 64.58.236.9 (64.58.236.9) 1.522 ms 1.213 ms 1.197 ms

    3 gige5-0-144.hsipaccess2.Phoenix1.Level
    3.net (63.214.168.41) 2.033 ms 3.614 ms 1.233 ms

    4 ge-6-0-1.mp1.Phoenix1.Level3.net (64.159.3.105) 1.823 ms 1.544 ms 1.457 ms

    5 so-3-0-0.mp2.SanDiego1.Level3.net (64.159.1.138) 9.047 ms 9.934 ms 7.978 ms

    6 gigabitethernet10-1.hsipaccess1.SanDie
    go1.Level3.net (64.159.3.94) 9.083 ms 8.025 ms 7.834 ms

    7 209.245.56.18 (209.245.56.18) 11.526 ms 8.774 ms 8.744 ms

    8 ac-cr2-fa1-0-0.accentric.net (209.132.3.3) 9.454 ms 10.133 ms 9.890 ms

    9 broadcast.san.yahoo.com (216.188.37.7) 9.257 ms 9.832 ms 8.980 ms


    ...I was considering the possibility of reselling them some hosting.
    Last edited by chrisb; 06-17-2002 at 07:16 AM.

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    Traceroute is not a speed test. It might be fast to you, but it won't be that fast to most people.
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    Originally posted by ToastyX
    Traceroute is not a speed test. It might be fast to you, but it won't be that fast to most people.
    ummm, OK. I just noticed that site takes fewer hops than most. Anyhow, is ping a speed test?

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    Originally posted by chrisb
    Anyhow, is ping a speed test?
    Not at all, it is based upon how close you are to the host...
    People in lets say the U.K get higher pings to sites in the U.S because they are miles from the actual servers.

    Although geocities may have a fast trace and ping, which they do because they have many pipes because they are owned by yahoo, (yahoo needs 100% because they are so big) So yes they have a good network, but they most likley overload their servers with a million accounts, that's why the sites are so slow.

    A trace to Geocities from Toronto, Canada:

    1,10.66.224.1,13ms,None,----
    2,24.226.0.28,28ms,cgowave-0-28.cgocable.net,----
    3,24.226.1.1,11ms,cgowave-busy-core.cgocable.net,----
    4,64.86.84.197,10ms,if-4-3.core1.Toronto2.Teleglobe.net,----
    5,64.86.80.241,14ms,if-10-0.core1.Scarborough.Teleglobe.net,----
    6,207.45.222.206,110ms,if-8-0.core2.Scarborough.Teleglobe.net,----
    7,207.45.222.182,268ms,if-3-0.core2.Chicago3.Teleglobe.net,----
    8,64.86.83.138,121ms,if-3-0.core2.Denver.Teleglobe.net,----
    9,64.86.83.142,112ms,if-2-0.core2.Sacramento.Teleglobe.net,----
    10,64.86.83.205,113ms,if-3-0.core2.PaloAlto.Teleglobe.net,----
    11,64.86.84.146,103ms,ix-1-0.core2.PaloAlto.Teleglobe.net,----
    12,216.115.101.34,98ms,ge-2-3-0.msr1.pao.yahoo.com,----
    13,66.218.64.146,102ms,vl16.bas1.scd.yahoo.com,----
    14,66.218.77.78,103ms,home1.geo.vip.scd.yahoo.com,----

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    A ping is a speed test, but isn't useful in the way most people try to use it for. It shows you the speed it takes for the packet to go from the place you are testing from, to the places you are testing to (and back). So basically, for the exact nano-second you run the test, you can find out how fast this packet went, for this exact route (which might not be the same route even if you retested a nano-second later), from one specific point to the server.

    You can't really compare these results with:

    Same test from a different location to the same destination server.
    Test of a differnet destination server
    Servers on differnt networks (if your internet connectivity is through the Sprint network, and you test a server also on the Sprint network, it could show faster than a server on another network).

    So yes, it is a speed test, however you have to know what it is testing.
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    Originally posted by Chicken
    A ping is a speed test, but isn't useful in the way most people try to use it for. It shows you the speed it takes for the packet to go from the place you are testing from, to the places you are testing to (and back). So basically, for the exact nano-second you run the test, you can find out how fast this packet went, for this exact route (which might not be the same route even if you retested a nano-second later), from one specific point to the server.
    What Chicken does not tell everyone is that he is secretly a CCIE .

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    seems more to me like you traced to their webcast, which they use broadcast.yahoo.com for, which IS fast and no doubt going through a fat pipe.

    my traceroute to their site yahoo and isn't that fast at all. compare my traces to WHT and newschannel5 coming from austria. i've x'd out most of the IPs just to make this easier. IP > ping > location

    NEWSCHANNEL5.com
    ------------
    1 x.x.x.x 1 (private use)
    2 x.x.x.x 5 (private use)
    3 x.x.x.x 3 Telekabel are Cable-TV operator and
    4 x.x.x.x 3 Telekabel are Cable-TV operator and
    5 x.x.x.x 3 Chello Broadband
    6 x.x.x.x 17 Telia International Carrier
    7 x.x.x.x 41 Telia International Carrier
    8 x.x.x.x 47 Telia International Carrier
    9 x.x.x.x 66 Telia International Carrier
    10 x.x.x.x 66 Telia International Carrier
    11 x.x.x.x 66 Telia International Carrier
    12 x.x.x.x 67 Verio, Inc.
    13 x.x.x.x 71 Verio, Inc.
    14 x.x.x.x 77 Verio, Inc.
    15 x.x.x.x 146 Verio, Inc.
    16 x.x.x.x 141 Verio, Inc.
    17 x.x.x.x 215 Verio, Inc.
    18 129.250.4.94 p16-7-0-0.r01.mlpsca01.us.bb.verio.net Milpitas, CA, USA -08:00 213 x- Verio, Inc.
    19 129.250.5.96 p16-7-0-0.r00.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net Los Angeles, CA, USA -08:00 231 x Verio, Inc.
    20 129.250.5.25 p16-7-0-0.r02.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net Los Angeles, CA, USA -08:00 225 x Verio, Inc.
    21 129.250.3.210 p4-0-3-0.r01.sndgca01.us.bb.verio.net San Diego, CA, USA -08:00 226 x Verio, Inc.
    22 129.250.27.102 ge-1-1-0.a05.sndgca01.us.ra.verio.net San Diego, CA, USA -08:00 233 x- Verio, Inc.
    23 207.67.240.206 d3-0-1-3.a05.sndgca01.us.ce.verio.net San Diego, CA, USA -08:00 226 x Verio, Inc.
    24 209.132.3.3 ac-cr2-fa1-0-0.accentric.net San Diego, CA 92101
    224 x Accentric
    25 216.188.37.7 newschannel5.com -
    224 x Simple Network Communications, Inc



    WEBHOSTINGTALK.COM (now THIS is bloody fast)
    0 x.x.x.x 1 (private use)
    1 x.x.x.x 1 (private use)
    2 x.x.x.x 36 (private use)
    3 x.x.x.x 25 Telekabel are Cable-TV operator and
    4 x.x.x.x 3 Telekabel are Cable-TV operator and
    5.x.x.x.x 4 Chello Broadband
    6 x.x.x.x 213.46.160.157 - (Netherlands) +01:00 3 x Chello Broadband
    7 213.46.160.121 at-vie-rc-01-ge-2-0.chellonetwork.com -
    4 x Chello Broadband
    8 213.46.160.130 at-vie-rd-03-ge-2-0.chellonetwork.com -
    11 x- Chello Broadband
    9 213.46.173.202 at-vie-ri-01-pos-3-0.chellonetwork.com -
    10 x- Chello Broadband
    10 212.69.168.9 via0001-sw1.vie3-p0.7-gw.abovenet.at (Austria) +01:00 6 x- Net of Abovenet Communications GmbH / Austria
    11 212.69.164.22 so-2-3-0.cr1.fra1.de.mfnx.net Vienna, Austria +01:00 20 x- [organization]: AboveNet Communications GmbH
    12 208.184.102.142 so-0-0-0.cr2.fra1.de.mfnx.net San Jose, CA 95113 26 x- Abovenet Communications, Inc.
    13 64.125.31.141 pos9-0.cr2.ams2.nl.mfnx.net San Jose, CA 95113 30 x- Abovenet Communications, Inc.
    14 208.184.231.146 so-0-0-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net San Jose, CA 95113 31 x- Abovenet Communications, Inc.
    15 64.125.31.182 so-7-0-0.cr2.lga1.us.mfnx.net San Jose, CA 95113 104 x-- Abovenet Communications, Inc.
    16 216.200.127.198 pos1-0.er1a.lga1.us.mfnx.net San Jose, CA 95113 105 x- Abovenet Communications, Inc.
    17 209.249.55.203 webhostingtalk.com San Jose, CA 95113 104 x- Abovenet Communications, Inc.

    now that is a traceroute! i'm jealous!

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    duh. I feel pretty stupid now.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Well Chicken was right. It is a speed test but not the kind you were looking for, which is why I said what I said. A ping will return the same results a traceroute would. The best way to test speed is to download something from many locations and see what transfer rate you get.
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    For others who aren't interested but somehow they are reading this because they've got nothing better to do...

    Common posts I've seen in my travels:

    "I pinged the host and it was fast but my visitors are complaining that the site is slow..."

    Unless your visitors are all coming over to your house to see the site (tip: buy a keg and post signs all over the neighborhood), you should be less concerned with how fast the ping is for you, and more concerned with how fast the ping is for the majority of your visitors. Good luck in determining this (hours of fun for the whole family). Not that you should worry about pings much at all anyhow because...

    Also a fast ping does not a fast site mean. A server under heavy load can return a decent ping time however your site, will crawl like a turtle with no legs.

    Not to mention let's play, "Which server will I actually be on?" You could be pinging a host's server located in one datacenter and the server you get put on could be somewhere else, on a different network, different connectivity altogether.

    So those 'speed tests' that used to be on c|net (if they still are I don't know) and elsewhere that challenge one server against another in terms of pings, are really pointless. You might as well go to the local state fair and try to shoot the large basketball into the tiny non-regulation hoop instead. Better use of your time and after you've spent $20, they usually feel sorry for you and give you a plastic snake.
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