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10-14-2006, 10:07 PM #1Disabled
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Fraud orders, more and more!
not sure, but was there an increase in fraud orders or just me ?
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10-14-2006, 10:39 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Ivan23Big things coming soon
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10-14-2006, 11:01 PM #3Aspiring Evangelist
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Hi,
A nut signed up an eNom Reseller account last month and registered 8 domains x 2 years. However all orders were fraud.
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10-14-2006, 11:19 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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I'm finding the best thing that we can do is make the web hosting community aware of it and do what we can together to put a stop to fraudsters.
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10-15-2006, 01:08 AM #5Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by AnyDemo
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10-14-2006, 11:24 PM #6Disabled
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this month we had about $1500 in fraud orders all coming from
*@mac.com email addressLast edited by Ivan23; 10-14-2006 at 11:28 PM.
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10-14-2006, 11:27 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Ivan23Big things coming soon
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10-15-2006, 09:04 AM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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wow a .mac address, i have a mac address, there a paid service so report it to apple. We have had alot of frauds too, its so hard to not get customers who use fraud credit cards.
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11-03-2006, 07:08 AM #9WHT Addict
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Looks like we got one a week or so ago, for our Australian hosting service. Used a USA address, @gmail.com email, and a who knows where from credit card to pay a year in advance.
Turns out it was a 23 year old kid from Ha dong in Vietnam. We easily found his real name, address, phone, as well as his various email addresses and domains registered to him. Got the little so-and-so's photo too! The idiot put it on our server along with a bunch of scantily clad girlie pics of his friends, an html containing a link to and VBscript code to run love.exe virus from one of his domains. He also left a copy of love.exe on our server.
Not sure if I should just pull the plug on him, report him or send him a friendly postcard!!
Do you reckon we'd get a reward from Visa for dobbing him in?
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10-15-2006, 12:17 AM #10Aspiring Evangelist
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What is up with the *@mac.com e-mails.... It started to make me suspious of them all. I seriously wanted to just mark them all as fraud just to avoide hassles, but I know better not to judge them all over one (or few many) bad apples.
Overall fraud orders do seem on the rise in general.
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10-15-2006, 12:56 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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There's an increase because kids don't know how not to be bitchy anymore.
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10-15-2006, 04:28 AM #12Disabled
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I did not have any fraud orders so far. Hm...
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10-15-2006, 07:53 AM #13Web Hosting Guru
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I actually saw a DECREASE lol, there was a couple of months when it was a madness
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10-15-2006, 08:01 AM #14Predatory Poster
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I haven't had any fraud orders lately but due to the nature of my work I converse with clients on a regular basis so it's not a blind faith sale like webhosting.
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10-15-2006, 08:03 AM #15Web Hosting Evangelist
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Weve had 3 in the past week 2 of them from @mac.com addresses, one was from a yahoo address,
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10-15-2006, 08:20 AM #16Junior Guru Wannabe
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Isn't there a way to avoid Fraud, e.g. use Fraudcall? or is it possible, e.g.
People can use can still get away through radical methods such as proxies via https to not show real IP, use Real Ph Number from VoIP to avoid identification?
I guess thats the problem with Instant Activation though. But I guess there would be holes through manual verification/activation aswell?
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10-15-2006, 08:56 AM #17Predatory Poster
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Common sense is the best way to check for fraud. 99% of the time if the order ip traces back to a datacenter it's fraud. Zipcode is invalid etc.
I use zipinfo.com to check zipsPatron: I'd like my free lunch please.
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11-06-2006, 04:31 AM #18Aspiring Evangelist
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Hello,
did enom catch it? what was the impact on you?
Anyway eNom asked me to check with new resellers very carefully in order to minimize fraud orders from resellers.
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10-15-2006, 09:51 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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I got a few signups for @itelgua.com with US IPs.. Obviously, I didn't approve the account & just refunded the full amount before any chargebacks.
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10-15-2006, 11:59 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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We have actually seen a number of high-profile fraud orders (over $1000usd) in the past month.
Three, to be exact. Also, two fraudulent dedicated server orders.
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10-15-2006, 12:09 PM #21Disabled
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3 dedicated servers so far,
what you use to prevent this on your system ?
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10-15-2006, 12:10 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Ivan23Big things coming soon
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10-24-2006, 03:39 PM #23Disabled
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Originally Posted by Nick H
right now added fruadcall but thats only because of modernbill ( not the best ).
Photo ID sounds like a good idea
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11-01-2006, 05:15 PM #24Disabled
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Hello,
You need to check for fraud orders through the payment gateway itself.
Payment gateway like 2checkout.com and paypal. These are the two widely used payment gateways. They check for the fraud orders and then state in the order itself that this order is a fake or fraud order.
Thank you.
Regards,
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11-02-2006, 12:44 AM #25Junior Guru
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yes 2 weeks ago i got 5 and it really screwed me up for a bit, sorted that out though and got real good fraud protection now.
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