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10-11-2006, 04:14 AM #1WHT Addict
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WHT Signature rules need to be updated
Signatures:
Must be setup in your profile, and not manually added to your messages.
May not contain any pricing, plan, sales, etc. details.
May contain a maximum of two smilies. Or one animated smiley.
May include two clickable links.
May include two colors, plus black.
Maximum font size cannot be larger than normal.
Must be kept to a maximum of four lines (at 1024x768 resolution).
May not contain links to other threads or posts.
Please keep special characters to a minimum.
Your signature is your signature. It is not for sale or rent.
Any signature that is offensive or insulting to WHT, its members, or its staff, is prohibited.
We reserve the right to ask you to change and/or remove your signature at any time, for any reason.
- No Affliate links
- No Links to free hosts
Are there any other rules missing?
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10-11-2006, 04:20 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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Personally, I believe that the 2 clickable links rule is a pain in the butt. If we can keep our signature at 4 lines or less and still have more links, I really don't see the big concern. But, I'm not the rule makers, just the rule follower
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10-11-2006, 04:21 AM #3Originally Posted by perpetual
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10-11-2006, 04:41 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Nick H
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10-11-2006, 06:38 AM #5Disabled
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Links to free hosts shouldn't be banned. The word "Free" shouldn't be allowed, but if there's no mention of price, it should be just fine.
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10-11-2006, 07:44 AM #6Originally Posted by ub3r
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10-11-2006, 08:31 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Nick H
A B C D E F G H I ... you get the point
And personally, I think using Arial Black as the font in your signature (like you did) SHOULD violate the rule: Maximum font size cannot be larger than normal.
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10-11-2006, 11:12 AM #8Web Hosting Master
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I think the rules are strict enough
Like anon said, they do already ban affiliate links and the word free so both of your suggestions are already in place
I don't see a reason for not allowing links to free hosts though...the word free and pricing is banned, but why ban all links to free hosts?John Diver
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10-11-2006, 12:14 PM #9Retired Moderator
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IF you are saying that "Free" isnt allowed at all in sigs, there are gonna be a flood of tickets. I have seen quite a few sigs that have "Free" in them.
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10-11-2006, 12:32 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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Can robots even see links in sigs? I thought I had seen this brought up here before and remember somebody saying they cant see them.
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10-11-2006, 01:14 PM #11Retired Moderator
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Why would bots not be able to see signatures? Bots simply see the page output. They don't care whether it's a signature or not. If the rest of the page's text is indexed, so is the sig
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10-11-2006, 01:22 PM #12Disabled
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I think the showing of signatures for logged-out users was once turned off. I could be wrong though.
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10-11-2006, 01:41 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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It is totally blocked for spiders on SP (Sitepoint), but WHT doesn't block it at all
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10-11-2006, 02:37 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by NichBig things coming soon
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10-11-2006, 02:43 PM #15WHT Addict
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Rules are Rules.. !
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10-11-2006, 03:00 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by markovBig things coming soon
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10-11-2006, 05:36 PM #17Originally Posted by the_pm
I was under the impression, as well, that signatures weren't shown to bots. It's not that hard to distinguish between bot and real person and put conditionals in thereTom Whiting, WHMCS Guru extraordinaire
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10-11-2006, 07:04 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by the_pm
With your known background in web-design you should know if something like this is impossible or possible before throwing your question "Why would bots not be able to see signatures?" by an answer or fact to you that is not entirely true.Dave
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10-11-2006, 07:17 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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You can add rel="nofollow" to links in the signature to stop Google from counting them towards the page's ranking.
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10-11-2006, 07:37 PM #20Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by namelayer
How do you distinguish between a bot and a real person and insert a conditional? Oh, some bots are kind enough to identify themselves and allow you to do this, but the majority do not. How do you identify a bot that doesn't identify itself? Or I should say, how do you do it in a practical sense? I have sites that may get a dozen search engine bots visit in a day, along with a couple thousand unidentified bots, which I can only distinguish later because they drop spam into my logs. If you have a solution for how to distinguish those visitors as bots and only offer up a portion of the page's content, I'd love to hear it. Seriously, I would! I could fight back pretty hard on the log spammers if there was a way to do this. I would set up spider traps, but I'm a little leery about making an .htaccess file 777.Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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10-11-2006, 07:45 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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I am pretty sure that just about every member here knows that you cant block every bot but just bots in general.
Please rethink your reply to my statement just made.
Again, we all know you cant block every bot but that has nothing to do with what I am talking about.
I am talking about something that I had thought At One Time that sigs were blocked from bots/spiders. Never said Every Spider.
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10-11-2006, 07:50 PM #22Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by namelayerStudio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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10-12-2006, 12:23 AM #23Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by the_pmDave
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10-12-2006, 12:27 AM #24Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by namelayer
Furthermore, you, as the programmer, are at the mercy of the bot creator, SE or otherwise, in terms of how you program your site to recognize a string. And lastly, most SEs will ban sites that serve up content to their bots that differs from what regular visitors see, if the infraction is reported. This is a big no-no. So, you can alter your site's contents to suit a small number of bots, and because of the nature and importance of that small number, it is a bad idea to attempt itStudio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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10-12-2006, 12:36 AM #25Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by the_pm
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