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  1. #1
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    directadmin vs. cpanel

    Hi there,

    I got a question about control panels, which I hope can be answered in here: I am used to Cpanel/WHM for administrating my servers and have always been satisfied with it, but since I am buying a new server now I consider switching to directadmin - mainly for the price (direct admin lifetime is at 299 USD while cpanel is at over 1k).

    now I wonder wether you would advice to do so or not. Or in other words: Are there any major downsides of directadmin compared to cpanel?

    Besides of that I wonder how hard itīs to setup direct admin on a new server (suse10 linux used) and what would be a fair price to pay a freelancer to do so?

    thx in advance,
    dd

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    As far as working is concered a good panel helps alot in performance of the server. If you have alot of site hosted i would recommend Plesk after than Cpanel and direct admin is out of question.

    You can have plesk Licence for $69 / month for unlimited host and for 30 domains it will cost you $12.

    If you are providing hosting to clients than i recommend go for a reliable WebPanel

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    I beleive DA is more stable and more customer friendly.

    Also less bugs...
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    Well I think its always better to try something out before buying it. You should consider maybe renting DA or even trying out the demo on their website.

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    I vote for directadmin. we are in the process of moving everything to directadmin from cpanel. software seems more stable then cpanel and less resources are being used.

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    Just letting you know, DirectAdmin comes with free installation. They got it done within 24 hours on all my servers.
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    everyone has their own idea of what is a great cp and what isn't. i personally like cpanel mainly because I know the most about it. DirectAdmin appears to be a great product as does Plesk. The time for the learning curve is my only issue. I don't have it. It is however a great subject and is one of the most important components to your hosting company. So choose wisely young frog and you will jump much higher.


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    I have used DirectAdmin very little, but from what I've heard it uses fewer resources which may be a plus especially if using it on a VPS. When I originally tried WHM/cPanel it seemed the easiest to use (both for me and my customers) and I've stuck with it ever since. I've actually bought only one copy of it - since then, I've found it easier to just rent/lease a license - no hassles transfering the license to a new server, etc.

    Check out the demos at http://www.directadmin.com/demo.html
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    DirectAdmin (DA) is amazing.

    I just setup a new Dual Opteron server with DA and it flys. DA allows you to run whatever version of Apache you want, whatever version of MySQL, PHP, etc. I setup Apache 2.2.3, PHP 4.4.4, MySQL 5.x and I generate pages faster than some quad processor boxes (both with zero starting load). It isn't hard to compile Apache either. In fact, I find it easier and more convenient than cPanel!

    cPanel is just plain unprofessional these days. All the way from the annoying bugs to the threatening security exploits. Just search for the HostGator issue with cPanel, it would make for some interesting reading.

    Some people say cPanel has a nice interface, but at the same time, that's just because we all are so used to it. Try out DA for a bit. I'm sure you'll like it.

    For single server setups, you cannot get better than DA. For multiple server (clustered) setups, H-Sphere is the best option IMHO. So just decide which route you want to take...

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    Cpanel without a doubt is the much better control panel.

    Sure DA maybe less resource intensive, but that's only because it has no where near as many features as cpanel.

    Cpanel did have a major exploit, but that is not uncommon for a piece of software that is so complex. What you should look at is the time it took them to patch the hole. Less than a few hours after it was reported a patch was released. In all the years I have used cpanel I only can recall two exploits that were patched right after they were discovered.

    DA is although a very nice control panel if you don't need all the features that cpanel provides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRHosting
    Sure DA maybe less resource intensive, but that's only because it has no where near as many features as cpanel.
    Care to list the main show stoppers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRHosting
    Cpanel without a doubt is the much better control panel.

    Sure DA maybe less resource intensive, but that's only because it has no where near as many features as cpanel.

    Cpanel did have a major exploit, but that is not uncommon for a piece of software that is so complex. What you should look at is the time it took them to patch the hole. Less than a few hours after it was reported a patch was released. In all the years I have used cpanel I only can recall two exploits that were patched right after they were discovered.

    DA is although a very nice control panel if you don't need all the features that cpanel provides.
    From an end-user (hosting client) perspective, what feature does cPanel have on DA?

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    DirectAdmin is very flexible, when there is a problem it’s normally fairly easy to fix yourself from within SSH.

    It's stable, low resources, updated all the time, easy to fix when problems occur.

    Like Layer0 said, from an end-user perspective people seem to like cPanel more due to things like fantastico.

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    I'll follow layer0's question (without sarcasm... I would really like to know) from a reseller perspective what feature(s) does cPanel have on DA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by getpro
    Like Layer0 said, from an end-user perspective people seem to like cPanel more due to things like fantastico.
    Just a matter of presenting things IMO. You've got Installatron in DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCP/IP Warrior
    I'll follow layer0's question (without sarcasm... I would really like to know) from a reseller perspective what feature(s) does cPanel have on DA?

    Thanks!
    None, as far as I know.

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    I no longer have my DA test machine, but when I had it about 6 months ago the features for the admin, reseller and client didn't even compare to cpanel.

    I remember many little things here and there that made the user interface not user friendly. One being the cron setup page, it doesnt have the easy to use cron manager like cpanel.

    I looked at the DA demo for reseller and admin, but it appears they must have many features missing from the demo or I dont even know how you could compare its features to cpanel.

    Try each panels demos:

    http://www.directadmin.com/demo.html
    http://www.cpanel.net/products/cPane...try_cp_whm.htm

    and you need to remember that cpanel doesn't show a demo of their administrative WHM. Here are some screenshots of the admin WHM:
    http://ziaka.com/whmscreenshots/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRHosting
    I no longer have my DA test machine, but when I had it about 6 months ago the features for the admin, reseller and client didn't even compare to cpanel.

    I remember many little things here and there that made the user interface not user friendly. One being the cron setup page, it doesnt have the easy to use cron manager like cpanel.

    I looked at the DA demo for reseller and admin, but it appears they must have many features missing from the demo or I dont even know how you could compare its features to cpanel.

    Try each panels demos:

    http://www.directadmin.com/demo.html
    http://www.cpanel.net/products/cPane...try_cp_whm.htm

    and you need to remember that cpanel doesn't show a demo of their administrative WHM. Here are some screenshots of the admin WHM:
    http://ziaka.com/whmscreenshots/
    The cronjobs page is fine in DA, what makes cPanel's cronjobs page better?

    You still have not named any features besides the cronjob as to what DA is lacking. Please name specific things.

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    Cpanel has two versions of the cron management it has the simple easy to use version and the advanced user version as DA has. The DA way may be fine for you, but is it for your clients that may not have any computer knowledge?

    It is quite hard for me to name off specific features when I don't have access to a DA control panel at this time. I'm going off my experience when I tested all the major panels a few months back. The client interfaces were similar, but the further you go up the ladder the less features were present. Please post screenshots of your admin panel and then I can compare them in detail.
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    Cpanel has two versions of the cron management it has the simple easy to use version and the advanced user version as DA has. The DA way may be fine for you, but is it for your clients that may not have any computer knowledge?
    Attached is a screenshot for the cron page. It looks very straightforward to me. And if someone clicks "Help" on the icons above they can get more information about the cronjob page. cPanel doesn't have that

    It is hard to compare the two (cpanel and DA) because they have different setups. DA is tiered, reseller, admin, user. Some options that are not seen on the admin tier are available in the reseller tier, etc.

    Overall, I don't see a 'critical' feature that cPanel has which DA does not. Look through the DA demos a bit more...
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    what a tired discussion. Direct Admin is awesome ftrom an admin and reseller standpoint. I do like the way cpanel manages ips better but overall I like da better because it doesnt take over your server as much and its very very light on resources as opposed to cpanel.
    But the fact of the matter is, at least for me is that DirectAdmin hosting does not sell as good. I started out selling nothing but directadmin hosting and ended up getting a cpanel server to even things out. Without the cpanel server I would still be in the hole, it has really helped my business.

    DirectAdmin is good but Cpanel sells better

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    I do like the way cpanel manages ips
    What is better about the way cPanel manages IPs? Honestly, I think DA is better for that. It is a lot cleaner.

    If you market DA correctly, it can sell just as much as cPanel, if not more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRHosting
    but is it for your clients that may not have any computer knowledge?
    i dun really think such clients know what cron job is/for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hehachris
    i dun really think such clients know what cron job is/for.
    They dont, but they still use scripts that require a cron job to be setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRHosting
    They dont, but they still use scripts that require a cron job to be setup.
    Then why does cPanel make it easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by layer0
    Then why does cPanel make it easier?
    So the user can add the cron job without any assistance from the host. They may not know what it does, but with the simple system cpanel has they could add one and get it working. I can obviously see that you will not budge on your position and neither will I, so it really does no good for us to go back and forth. It may just be that we both have biased opinions and someone that is new to both panels would have to make the call.

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    I missed your earlier post about the Cron setup. Cpanel has both versions, the simple method and the unix style.
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    cPanel is better cause it allows u to control stuff bettrer

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    Before setting up our web hosting machines I tried both cPanel and Directadmin and in the end I chose DA because it seemed to run more efficiently and I feel that it is more basic to use for the average web user.
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    yyahmee, if you say can control more stuff in cPanel. Which kind of stuff and how are they more controlable with cPanel than DA ?

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    If you're used to adminstration in a multi-tasking matter, then cpanel would be better, as far as I am aware, DirectAdmin is a better control panel, apart from the multi-tasking issue. (all panels are on the same port).

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    looks like admin and resellers prefer da most. Also client level people who started using it like it better. But I think it would be neat to get a client and entry level resellers opinions on this. Like so we know what the clients prefer when they look for hosting.

    And layer0 I like the way cpanel manages ips better for resellers and such like seting the shared ip and such. That is my only thing I like better on cpanel

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    It's apple and oranges. Both are fruits - its really your preference.


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    Does anyone know if there is a DA trial that you can install just like cPanel? I'd love to compare the two. I've only heard good things about DA. But i'd really like to see for myself.

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    So far I've been using only cpanel, and always as a reseller in shared servers hostings. I really do not resell anything, I just use WHM to manage my several domains/sites.

    A week ago I moved to a VPS and I chose cpanel as the CP beacause it was what I was used to, and it's now when I realise the importance of resource usage... the memory used by cpanel is simply too high, and the processes it creates are too resource intensive. Not to mention the price of the software.

    Before I started managing my own server I just cared for the hosts using cpanel and never considered switching to DA, but now that I'm involed in administration and resource optimization, I'd change hands down.

    Cpanel is not worth the cost (hardware and money wise) if you are not reselling or runing a hosting business. IMHO it's major advantage over other panels is that the people is too used to it to consider a switch, so they wont buy a hosting package that does not include it. This was my case until a couple days ago.

    If I ever start a dedicated server I'll go DA or wahtever panel does its job with the lowest cost.

  38. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by reiteration
    I beleive DA is more stable and more customer friendly.

    Also less bugs...
    I agree 100%, more stable, secure and user friendly.

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    This could be a long message but short and sweet of it is, if you are your own provider (not a reseller) go with cPanel =]

    I feel as though customers enjoy that much more than DirectAdmin, which is limited in ways too.

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    I don't see how DirectAdmin is limited at the user level.
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