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10-05-2006, 07:42 PM #1Newbie
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netfirms or dreamhost?
well netfirms has a $10 for the first year deal going on, and dreamhost has a year for $20. the prices are good for me since they are in my range. but i need help deciding which one. I want to use the host for a forum. not a large one, a relatively small one. I've heard that netfirms has mysql errors a lot and their load times are slow, and i've also heard that dreamhosts servers are also slow and always have bugs/problems since they oversell. i want a reliable host so that i wont regret after buying. help?
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10-05-2006, 07:46 PM #2Web Hosting Guru
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1 whole year?
Well i don't think you find anything reliable for $20 a year and most likely will regret it. Go with netfirms though, they oversell less.LicensePal.com
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10-05-2006, 07:50 PM #3Newbie
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thats what i was more leaning to. yeah just a year im fairly new to the whole web scene. im just a beginner that wants to get a small site going to keep myself occupied and learn new things
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10-05-2006, 07:54 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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You sould do some research on both of them. Just do search on WHT, you will get tons of review on bot of them. If i was you, never go with dreamhost, there lot story about them. Best of luck.
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10-05-2006, 07:59 PM #5Web Hosting Guru
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Oh and another thing you should remember is keep your own backups of your site. And try to backup as much as you can.
Alot of people come complaining here that their low budget hosts server crashed and lost all the info.
Good luck.LicensePal.com
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10-05-2006, 08:06 PM #6Newbie
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thats ironic, because my host did crash. but it was a "free host" i had a feeling that it wouldnt last very long. but fortunately i did get a back up of my whole site, so thats why im actually going to pay for a host. hey its one step up ;]
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10-05-2006, 09:04 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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It goes against the grain, but I'd recommend going with Dreamhost over Netfirms.
We're using Netfirms to host one of our sites, and while it hasn't been a horrible experience, there are two major things that I find to be lacking. One, email does not work properly. We've had several instances with our incoming mail where some messages come through, and others are bounced back to the sender, with no rhyme or reason. This will go on for a few days, get fixed, and then start up again. The other problem I have with Netfirms is that their control panel (custom, possibly built on top of cPanel/WHM) gives me lots of errors, even when I'm doing something simple, such as clicking a link to visit a different page in the panel.
Having said that, Netfirms' support is great - response times are usually within 3 hours - I've never had to call in for support, so I am not sure how that would go.
I've never personally used Dreamhost, but I have a friend who uses them exclusively to host several of his Websites, and he swears up and down that they're great. I've noticed that, oftentimes, his sites are slow to load, but he seems to be happy.
Anyway, hope this bit of insight helps you in some way or another. Good luck in choosing your host.Daniel B., CEO - Bezoka.com and Ungigs.com
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10-06-2006, 12:39 AM #8Web Hosting Master
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between these two ... dreamhost ...
They are friendly and they haven't lost any of my files yet
They had their problems but they sorted them out.
P.S: I'm pushing a few gigs every month on dreamhost.Got Fused?
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10-06-2006, 03:32 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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Dreamhost, no question about that.
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10-06-2006, 08:27 AM #10Newbie
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Dreamhost. I've tried both.
1. Netfirms would hang during sftp syncing.
2. You get only one SSH/SFTP access with Netfirms
3. Weird logins & passwords for extra FTP users.
4. Ditto for MySQL databases you create (weird logins/passwords).
5. No user forums.
6. OK for static files though.
If your site is small, you might want to try asmallorange.com for $25/yr. 75MB space only though.
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10-06-2006, 08:40 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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offering 200gb space is insulting to customrs intelligence
https://www.2mhost.com
Since 2001
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10-06-2006, 08:41 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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I'm just waiting for those that will fill those 200GB of space ...
wget --mirror sourceforge.net
...anyone?Got Fused?
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10-06-2006, 08:42 AM #13Newbie
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Originally Posted by markp9114
I don't have any experience with NetFirms so I can't compare directly, but I'm happy with DreamHost. As mentioned above, they went through a very rough patch with the power outage in late summer and subsequent infrastructure problems but things seem to be back to normal now. My only caution would be that if your forum becomes popular with lots of users, apparently you may end up using too many "CPU minutes" and DH may ask you to move. (edit: As will most other low-cost hosts) Check their user forums for some people's experiences with that. I have no idea what "popular" means in terms of actual number of users, nor whether some forum software may be more CPU-intensive than others, but it's something to keep in mind.
Good luck and have fun experimenting!Last edited by Klinn; 10-06-2006 at 08:52 AM.
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10-06-2006, 09:41 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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I switched my backup host from servage to DramHost, this year.
And I like DH a lot. They are open, flexible, reliable enough for what I do.
I added more account and I have no comlaint.
I would like them more if they offer free shared SSL,
and improve the way stat page is setup.
But I'm only paying about $2 per month, and I think I'm getting
insane value in return.
They are crazy, for sure, and I like that.
Now, I'm using one of DreamHost account for my main site,
and using PowWeb for very minor role they can handle.
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10-06-2006, 11:19 AM #15Web Hosting Guru
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If its only those 2, them Dreamhost as well ^^
Just because they are friendly and trustworthy.
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10-06-2006, 11:03 PM #16Newbie
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thanks all for the replies! hmm still deciding. there are lots of good things and bad things about both of them and nothing can be perfect so i guess im going to have to take a chance. although the netfirms $10/year + 2 free domains sounds like a great deal i think i would prefer cpanel with dreamhost. hMm decisions decisions.
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10-07-2006, 06:49 AM #17Newbie
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Originally Posted by markp9114
BTW, after reading about the various CPanel security issues in these forums, I was glad to know that DH would not fall victim to the same code holes.
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10-07-2006, 07:15 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Klinn
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10-07-2006, 03:38 PM #19Newbie
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oh really? didnt know that.. thanks for the heads up =]
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10-08-2006, 03:29 AM #20Newbie
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well i've been researching a little and it sounds like hostgator would be good for me with the fast speed. If i use a coupon for the baby plan it says its $.01/month. Is the correct because that seems too cheap
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10-08-2006, 03:40 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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It's 1 cent for the first month, the next are $9.95 ...
I think the coupon is for people to try their services ...and if they don't like them ...they don't loose a thing.Got Fused?
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Originally Posted by Siropel
I'll keep you informed.
Originally Posted by SiropelRecommended: Stablehost, Hivelocity, Fused
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10-08-2006, 03:56 AM #23WHT Addict
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Dreamhost also charges a $50 set up fee, according to their TOS.
There is a per-plan one time setup fee of $49.95 for all shared hosting packages, and if the customer wishes to cancel DreamHost shared Web Hosting services within ninety-seven (97) days of the initial signup they shall be able to do so for any reason (aside from disablement for Terms of Service or Spam Policy violations) and have their money promptly refunded.<<< Please see Forum Guidelines for signature setup. >>>
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10-08-2006, 04:07 AM #24Newbie
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oh okay, thanks guys!
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10-08-2006, 06:20 AM #25Newbie
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Currently using both dreamhost and netfirms for different sites - both of them reasonably good, and inexpensive ($10 / $20 as you've mentioned). My experience with both
a) Netfirms uptime seems better - I've had occasional blips with dreamhost, very rate with netfirms. Also, support response is MUCH faster with netfirms.
b) On the other hand, Netfirms has an odd process for setting up MySQL / database driven websites - so if you're needing to set up something, be prepared for 3 - 4 sessions of interactive discussion with their customer support to figure out how to tweak it.
c) Dreamhost theoretically allows unlimited domains, whereas Netfirms restricts it to 3 - in case that's a restriction you don't want.
Either way - at the low price compared to most others (hostgator works out to around $100 for a year), either one's a good choice.
Best wishes