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10-05-2006, 04:09 AM #1Web Hosting Master
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Clustered Cpanel hosts?
Hello
do you know of any reseller provider that has Cpanel/WHM in a clustered enviroment?
- dns1 & dns2 should be separated (hosted on different machines - this is done easily within whm)
- mail server should also be separated (this is probably difficult)
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10-05-2006, 12:56 PM #2Nerf Herder
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10-05-2006, 01:26 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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cPanel doesn't really support clustering. It will only support MySQL on a different server.
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10-05-2006, 03:46 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by WK-Anthony
WHM can easily cluster DNS - that way one of my hosts has setup dns - dns1 is located in US and dns2 in NL for redundancy.
I am pretty sure there must be some hosts that have setup a more redundant cpanel environment - but who are these hosts▌ Managed.gr cloud hosting, paas, vps, dedicated, domain registration on global datacenters.
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10-05-2006, 04:19 PM #5Junior Guru
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site5.com is clustered I think, but it is a modified cPanel environnement.
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10-05-2006, 04:29 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Renard Fin
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10-05-2006, 04:32 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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I would definately not use site5 after the terrible service I read in WHT lately!
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10-05-2006, 04:45 PM #8Junior Guru
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For my personnal website I am with Site5 and never had any problem, with the support or the servers themselves. Only that Trac is impossible to install
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10-12-2006, 09:52 PM #9Web Hosting Guru
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Originally Posted by WK-Anthony
Actually, no, it is possible: we actually have 3 separate, clustered DNS servers/nameservers on 3 different locations -- using cPanel. But, you are right in the sense that what cPanel defines as a "Clustering" option in WHM is not actually the clustering we're talking about; instead, we used the true meaning of the word, which requires a custom method.
Although can be extremely tricky, expensive and requires expertise from a server administrator, it can be done, and so far we've been reaping the benefits: namely easier DNS control, other servers not affected during downtime, better response times, etc. Our system has been used for over 6 months connecting half-a-dozen servers, hence it has been working relatively well; albeit with a few glitches, which cPanel's Support staff managed to fix for us.
As for mail servers, I am not aware that they can be clustered on cPanel as the DNS servers, as mentioned above. I think Hsphere has built-in clustering (in the true sense) though, so that should be able to provide the option more easily
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10-12-2006, 11:32 PM #10Newbie
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Any other company's providing clustering?
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10-12-2006, 11:37 PM #11Location = SoapBox
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Although can be extremely tricky, expensive and requires expertise from a server administrator, it can be done, and so far we've been reaping the benefits: namely easier DNS control, other servers not affected during downtime, better response times, etc. Our system has been used for over 6 months connecting half-a-dozen servers, hence it has been working relatively well; albeit with a few glitches, which cPanel's Support staff managed to fix for us.
I think Hsphere has built-in clustering (in the true sense) though, so that should be able to provide the option more easily
Any other company's providing clustering?
For Linux and Windows - look at plesk and hsphere providers
For Windows only - look at Helm providerswww.cartika.com
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10-13-2006, 01:22 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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He didn't ask for hsphere or plesk he asked if anyone knew of a cpanel clustered host.
Can it be done? Yes it can and not as hard as people make it out to be either.
I can't say much more past this point but someday soon maybe some one will announce a fully clustered cpanel offering that people can buy.
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10-13-2006, 01:41 AM #13Location = SoapBox
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He didn't ask for hsphere or plesk he asked if anyone knew of a cpanel clustered host.
Any other company's providing clustering?
I can't say much more past this point but someday soon maybe some one will announce a fully clustered cpanel offering that people can buy.
however, the question still must be asked - why a square peg in a round hole? you want clustering? why not try a solution that accomodates it - many of them available - and since this doesnt seem to currently exist with cpanel, not much wrong with offering suggestions for solutions which do offer it...www.cartika.com
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10-13-2006, 06:13 AM #14Eternal Member
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I can't say much more past this point but someday soon maybe some one will announce a fully clustered cpanel offering that people can buy.
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10-13-2006, 06:22 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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I agree with you CartikaHosting that if someone should invest on a cluster setup then he/she should go with the panels that natively support clustering.
But, Cpanel is the most popular control panel and has the most features for the end-user - the market exists, so if Cpanel would exist in a clustered enviroment then all clients would be more than happy in terms of uptime and reliability.
HostingZoom introduced recentrly the Cpanel failover hosting with load balancers and redundant dns (for shared customers only). I would love to see more and more companies offering that (there is also HostTitan but no experience yet).
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Originally Posted by CartikaHosting
Just curious why you chose to try and customize a solution to accomplish what several out of the box solutions can handle seamlessly
I am not familiar with others having the same "clustering" setup, but I think HZ's format is a bit different in certain technical aspects, since they deal with secondary hard drives taking over after a failure, not necessarily completely DNS-based, etc. Although, the benefits are similar, and hopefully someday cPanel will introduce a more manageable way in dealing with the now-complicated procedure...Last edited by PolurNET; 10-13-2006 at 07:36 AM.
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10-13-2006, 02:44 PM #17Location = SoapBox
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But, Cpanel is the most popular control panel and has the most features for the end-user
HostingZoom introduced recentrly the Cpanel failover hosting with load balancers and redundant dns (for shared customers only). I would love to see more and more companies offering that
http://www.psoft.net/HSdocumentation...linux_nfs.html
This is an example of whats coming and is much more cost effective then the current NetApp HA solution which needs to be utilized with hsphere, meaning that it is becoming economically viable, even in the shared hosting space - to implement true HA situations.www.cartika.com
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10-13-2006, 05:11 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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I really hope more and more companies choose this route - in the end, when you have a highly available clustered setup the real winner is the company itself as it won't suffer from frustrated clients changing hosts.
Most companies provide such systems for shared hosting but not for resellers.
I plan to make a thread in order to list some clustered and/or failover reseller hosts.▌ Managed.gr cloud hosting, paas, vps, dedicated, domain registration on global datacenters.
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10-15-2006, 02:40 PM #19Nerf Herder
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Originally Posted by tonyFFLike passive recurring revenue you can retire on?
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