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09-23-2006, 11:49 PM #1Disabled
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Web Hosting Stuff - Uptime monitor: POINTLESS.
Just figured I would share this with whoever uses or takes into consideration the uptime monitor on webhostingstuff.com.
A few days ago, we were performing maintenance on our main website and there was a short outage. This outage was reported by the Web Hosting Stuff monitor as 16 minutes.... has an overall uptime of 99.94%. They have been monitored for 22 days since 02 Sep 2006 by WebHostingStuff.com Uptime Monitor™.
At 99.94%% overall uptime, ... uptime is considered excellent.
Here's the funny part:
It actually didn't reset it to 0 days, it now says:... has an overall uptime of 100.00%. They have been monitored for 22 days since 02 Sep 2006 by WebHostingStuff.com Uptime Monitor™.
At 100.00% overall uptime, ... uptime is considered excellent.
Main point being: It's way too easy for hosts with horrible uptime to try and pass along that they have 100% (or even close) uptime, when it can be nowhere near that...
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09-24-2006, 12:52 AM #2WebHostingTalk Lover
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Hi Steve,
I'll get in touch with WHS about this issue and forward him to take a look at this thread, thanks for pointing it out to the rest of us.
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09-24-2006, 12:55 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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Steve,
Does it only show that because you've been monitored for 22 days though?
http://www.webhostingstuff.com/uptim...ionEffect.html
Someone who has been monitored for months will have to see if it still leaves the previous 'monitored months' in place (thus showing the downtime percentages)
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09-24-2006, 12:58 AM #4Disabled
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Originally Posted by David
... has an overall uptime of 100.00%. They have been monitored for 22 days since 02 Sep 2006 by WebHostingStuff.com Uptime Monitor™.
You'd think that if the uptime was reset, the amount of days you've been monitored would be, too (it only makes sense).
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09-24-2006, 01:01 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Steve,
Definitely makes sense to reset the number of days but at least if it 'retained' the previous history users can then see the list of previous downtime for the month.
Technically though someone could reset theirs on the end of each month to retain the 100% uptime score.
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09-24-2006, 01:06 AM #6Disabled
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http://www.webhostingstuff.com/faq.html#53
Guess that explains the issue. Poorly designed IMO, so much for showing honest information about hosts.
EDIT: Figured I'd state it again, as they apparently want people to: It's way too easy for hosts with horrible uptime to try and pass along that they have 100% (or even close) uptime, when it can be nowhere near that...Last edited by sgarbus; 09-24-2006 at 01:12 AM.
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09-24-2006, 02:18 AM #7Nerf Herder
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Plus monitoring a hosts site has no point anyway, they dont host clients on that server. Better to just read reviews.
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09-24-2006, 05:13 AM #8Web Hosting Master
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Meh. That's why I signed up with a different monitor, I'd rather not lie to my clients about my 100% uptime.
Although I've never had to reset it.
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09-24-2006, 05:52 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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09-24-2006, 11:02 AM #10Newbie
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Even the free service is good at Hyperspin.
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09-24-2006, 11:21 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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How about host-tracker.com? Then again, nothing beats a paid service. (except if
what you described happens quite often...)
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09-24-2006, 01:35 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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I just checked webhostingstuff.com's site and it reads as follows:
We allow web hosts to reset their uptime percentage once every quarter.
Just click on the "Reset" link at the Manage Uptime page and your uptime percentage will be reset to 100.0% and downtime events to 0.
This reset does not upset your "number of days monitored" figure.
For example, before reset:
Uptime is 98.0% with 2 downtime events, tracked 115 days.
After reset:
Uptime becomes 100.0% with 0 downtime events, tracked 115 days.
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09-24-2006, 02:00 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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At least, many hosts know about it now.
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09-24-2006, 02:49 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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The reputable hosts are going to be the ones that have been monitored for quite some time, and show small bits of downtime over that period of time. So, the tool is not completely worthless, as has been stated by some. You just have to use common sense when using it - obviously, a host that's been monitored for 2 years now and shows 100% uptime has reset their counter.
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09-24-2006, 03:13 PM #15Disabled
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Originally Posted by GlobalWebDan
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09-24-2006, 03:17 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Please read the rest of my post. I do not appreciate you taking what I said out of context.
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09-24-2006, 03:33 PM #17Disabled
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Originally Posted by GlobalWebDan
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09-24-2006, 03:59 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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My post contained more than that.
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09-24-2006, 04:38 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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You should definately contact them and tell them about that, people could easily exploit that.
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09-28-2006, 03:05 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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Hi!
This post really made my day..this is exactly what I was trying to get across a few days ago...this service is pointless and misleading. I mean...come on now..any good host is going to have downtime. Happily..Linux servers can be updated without rebooting (unlike some other extremely popular operating systems) but we do need to update kernels..at the very least...and that does require the good complete system restart.
If there really was the demand for it...I have considered looking into fancy DNS configs. I've had one of these in the past..and it was nothing less than amazing.
You had to do it manually..but using what used to ultradns...switching dns from one server to another server took mere minutes. Yes..I'm talking globally..complete global propagation..it was amazing. Alertra reported a total of ten minutes total downtime globally...they're calling themselves something else now...but I guess most really don't need something like this.
I do think hosts might look into backing up at least *their* dns through zoneedit.com..it's not expensive at all...and really does work.
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