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09-22-2006, 02:20 PM #1Newbie
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Do hosting companies allow SSH?
Do hosting companies allow SSH? I have seen that a lot of companies do not do that but IMO without SSH it is very difficult to manage a professional site. What do you think about it?
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09-22-2006, 02:25 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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If you really need a SSH, you can look at the provider www.dotable.com for solutions...I need other provider that can provide you the SSH access upon request.
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09-22-2006, 02:27 PM #3Newbie
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I have some experience with asmallorange.com and they are really wonderful with their customer service. They are flexible with server settings and SSH access.
Thanks for the recommendation, I will give them a try.
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09-22-2006, 02:27 PM #4WHT Addict
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IMO it depends on your requirements and what is that you want to accomplish using SSH. If you are an expert with *nix OS, then you might find it very easy to manage SSH but for people who do not have any *nix knowledge? Companies do not want to take any risk providing additional support when users delete their files.. then there are certain security risks involved as well .. etc..
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09-22-2006, 02:31 PM #5Newbie
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Yes I know that SSH is powerful but then *nix experts can do some real good user management. IMO all companies should give SSH access as it comes as a blessing for a programmer. From mysqldump to file permissions, from creating softlinks to grep, debugging e.t.c
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09-22-2006, 02:45 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Threre are many hosts that offer ssh access.
Even low budget hosts may have that feature (like DreamHost).
But we can do almost everything without ssh, using a simple script
(written in Perl/PHP/Python/Shell script, ...) that issues shell command and
shows the result (including stderr output, in some cases).
Actually, I prefer such script over ssh access because I can manage my sites
at any location (without any need for having a machine with ssh capability).
However, some tasks are much easier with ssh, for sure.
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09-22-2006, 02:46 PM #7We Da Kine!
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Make sure you check with your provider or future provider as each host has their policies about SSH. One host I was with years ago stated on their web site that SSH was not allowed. But in a online chat with support they stated that they will allow it on a per request basis.
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09-22-2006, 03:24 PM #8Newbie
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Yes even my current company allowed SSH on request.
Last edited by sourav; 09-22-2006 at 03:32 PM.
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09-22-2006, 03:28 PM #9Newbie
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If you contact the host, most will probably allow you to have ssh. Those that state that they don't on their website will most likely make an exception if you tell them the reason.
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09-22-2006, 03:32 PM #10Newbie
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thanks, I think I should always have a personal talk with the site managers for SSH.
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09-22-2006, 05:36 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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Some do and some dont, I personally donot allow SSH access on my servers as they can be a very dangerous tool for hackers.
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09-22-2006, 06:22 PM #12Newbie
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Watch out for what kind of shell you get access to from SSH. You will probably wind up with jailshell when you really want bash.
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09-22-2006, 06:41 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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09-22-2006, 08:59 PM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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Yes alot do now-adays
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09-23-2006, 11:19 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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SSH is required to tar the cgi-bin directory preserving permissions. That is an excellent utility to back up scripts. There are other things that must be done with ssh and it is not a good idea trusting on support to do them
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09-23-2006, 11:39 AM #16WHT Addict
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yes, and commonly given a jailed shell (ssh) account.
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09-23-2006, 03:38 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by drgdiaz
using simple script.
Example:
Code:#!/bin/sh echo exec 2>&1 tar -cvf cgi-bin.tar /path-to-cgi-bin
For interactive commands that can't be controled otherwise,
you may need ssh, or it's easier with ssh.
Even these commands can be used with simple scripts like
"expect" or other "pty" modules in several common langualges.
So, it's nicer to have ssh in some cases, but you can live without it, most of the time.
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09-23-2006, 05:33 PM #18Newbie
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CGI-Telnet is also useful in situations where you don't have SSH but need to do a simple command or two