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Thread: Ubersmith doesn't support PHP5?
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09-19-2006, 03:33 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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Ubersmith doesn't support PHP5?
I was considering switching to Ubersmith recently until I ran across this post on their forums:
http://forums.ubersmith.com/showthread.php?t=531
They say there:
Over 90% of PHP programs today still use PHP4, and with PHP6 coming soon, it is unlikely Ubersmith - and most apps - will ever support PHP5.
Thoughts?Big things coming soon
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09-19-2006, 03:36 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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I would just stick with CE ....Or MB or CE, or MB, or CE......
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09-19-2006, 03:49 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by jerettBig things coming soon
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09-19-2006, 04:43 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Well - I think they are simply looking ahead and the idea that PHP6 is going to be a better upgrade that 5 was but I would think you would try to make it compatible with 4/5/6 because many host still have not yet upgraded to 5 simple because of the version issues. I hope it doesn't put Uber out of market until people go from 4 to 5 to 6. - Besides - I just dig CE.
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09-19-2006, 05:42 PM #5Junior Guru
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Same here, it looked interesting to me, kinda full featured and not so expensive. When I saw it didnt supported PHP5 I just dropped it right away. We are going to fully support php5 so there is just no sense in getting this software and use old builds just to have a feature packed software
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09-19-2006, 06:55 PM #6Rockin' the beer gut
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I love ubersmith. I'd eat the loss of not being able to use PHP5. Ubersmith is such a great product.
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09-19-2006, 06:57 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Dynu DouglasBig things coming soon
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09-19-2006, 07:40 PM #8Junior Guru
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I love whmautopilot, i use almost every billing system there is, ubersmith is good but a little pricer if you host it with them
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09-19-2006, 08:41 PM #9noobie
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We had the privilege to meet the Ubersmith guys at HostingCon and get a little demo of their new Datacenter Edition with the Steadfast and InterWorx crews. It seems like that's where their focus is for the time being - which would be fine with me really, php4 seems to get the job done fine for their billing, and they seem to have plenty on the horizon with DE that no publically available application I've seen even competes with.
In the meantime CE + UbiquityNOC does swell.
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09-19-2006, 10:35 PM #10Living in the Virtual World
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In my opinion ubersmith is nothing special, after working for it for a year or so, it is definately no match for modernbill. IMO.
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09-19-2006, 11:26 PM #11Web Hosting Guru
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PHP6 should be mostly compatible with PHP5 ( unless your using some of the new unicode features that will come out ), so I can't see why they wouldn't put some effort into getting up to spec for PHP5 so they are ready for PHP6
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09-20-2006, 01:58 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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MB hasn't supported PHP5 until very recently with their V5 catastrophe so most of you saying you couldn't support Ubersmith should rethink that. I don't know of many out there willing to convert to V5 of MB either just to get PHP5 support.
I agree with others that with PHP6 coming out so quickly it makes more sense to gear up for it. That and the fact that the most support for PHP still resides in 4.x.
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09-20-2006, 06:57 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by kris1351Big things coming soon
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09-20-2006, 10:01 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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The only reason I can think of for a reason is because they have limited developers and they are heavily trying to get the new Datacenter edition out and rolling.
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09-21-2006, 10:58 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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PHP6 should be mostly compatible with PHP5 ( unless your using some of the new unicode features that will come out ), so I can't see why they wouldn't put some effort into getting up to spec for PHP5 so they are ready for PHP6MB hasn't supported PHP5 until very recently with their V5 catastrophe so most of you saying you couldn't support Ubersmith should rethink that. I don't know of many out there willing to convert to V5 of MB either just to get PHP5 support.
PHP6 will not be here for a long time. PHP 5.2 is currently undergoing its RC stages, RC1 has a great outlook thus far, over 80 bug fixes from its previous release.
Closing, PHP5 is extremely solid, faster than PHP4 (object copy/creation is done _much_ more efficiently) - and has a smaller execution footprint. If a developer refuses to work with PHP5, he'll be in the same boat with PHP 5.2, 5.3, 5.x, 6.x - as they all follow the same new model (with some very small syntactical differences in PHP6) and might even miss out on critical improvements or security fixes once Zend, hopefully, decides to drop PHP4. Certainly a developer's early adoption of new technology, will mean a better conformity with PHP6 once it is released?
Cheers.
AlexLast edited by Saeven; 09-21-2006 at 11:02 AM.
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09-22-2006, 07:07 AM #16Junior Guru
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I was thinking Ubersmith, however I didn't like their replies from Sales.
I had asked them about their current $9.95/mo offer and I got a curt reply saying that we dont know if you will be switched to $24.95/mo once the offer is over.
I can't take a risk like that. I might as well go with another provider who has a price lock.
If before they sell it to you they aren't supportive and clear, I really wouldn't want to pay and find out worse!
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09-24-2006, 05:24 PM #17MB hasn't supported PHP5 until very recently with their V5 catastrophe
MB has supported php5 since the day php5 came out. I know, I tried it then . There were a FEW problems, but that is to be expected.
I love ubersmith. I'd eat the loss of not being able to use PHP5. Ubersmith is such a great product.
As a developer myself, I have written applications , countless applications, using php4. When I upgraded to php5, did I have to rewrite anything? Not at all. So, functionality is there. The ability to upgrade an application from 4 to 5 should be seamless. If it's not, someone, somewhere is doing SOMETHING wrong (and it's usually not the customer ).
Ubersmith is good, but stating "we will not support php5" is just wrong. Php6 has at LEAST another 2-3 years to go on it, judging by the betas and rc's of php5, so, there's no reason to throw everything into php6, making your customers wait for STABLE releases here.Tom Whiting, WHMCS Guru extraordinaire
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10-06-2006, 03:53 PM #18Junior Guru Wannabe
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Even most great aplications are based for php5 with php4 compatibility. Ubesmith is not my option, I cant wait 2 years untill php6 comes out. And when php6 is out, I wouldnt buy it either because if there was a mayor flaw or something, I would have to stay with my current server software because they dont feel like upgrading. HAHA! NOt a good biz