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    can someone in england educate me?

    was watching something about the royals on tv. it mentioned prince william would become king.

    how does this protocol work over there? is it always just going to be this one family that runs the country? how is it decided who ends up being what? if the queen dies, would charles end up being king?

    what specifically does the "royal family" do for england? are they like the government?

    sorry to sound ignorant (im definitely ignorant about this subject), but my curiosity is getting the best of me.
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    The Royal Family goes out and visits people (diplomatic stuff).

    The Queen / King signs new laws. They can't pass without the Queen / King's signature.

    However, it's unlikely that she / he wouldn't sign one.

    You could just look here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_monarchy

    A much better description than I've given. lol.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_...f_Wales#Future

    Why do you keep saying England? It is the United Kingdom, which is made up from England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

    Royal family doesn't have an effect on us really, we can do without it. Just something that's stuck with us since the old days I guess.

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    Just noticed something in the article I linked to:

    The common law holds that the Sovereign "can do no wrong"; the monarch cannot be prosecuted in his or her own courts for criminal offences. The Crown Proceedings Act 1947 allows civil lawsuits against the Crown in its public capacity (that is, lawsuits against the government); however, lawsuits against the monarch personally are not cognizable. The Sovereign also exercises the "prerogative of mercy," and may pardon offences against the Crown. Pardons may be awarded before, during, or after a trial.
    Does that mean she can commit any crime and not be prosecuted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KI-ChrisE
    Just noticed something in the article I linked to:



    Does that mean she can commit any crime and not be prosecuted?
    Heck why not, shes the boody queen.
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    I presume the President doesn't have a clause like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KI-ChrisE
    I presume the President doesn't have a clause like this?
    I know the USA can give their important "friends" from other countries clauses like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camers
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_...f_Wales#Future

    Why do you keep saying England? It is the United Kingdom, which is made up from England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
    well, she is the "queen of england". never heard of her referred to as the queen of UK.
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    SHE IS NOT THE "Queen of England"
    She is:

    Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith
    Taken from www.royal.gov.uk (The Monarchy Website)

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    you guys are awful touchy

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    officially she signs new laws into law, and is the head of our country. the way it actually works though is that if the government want a law, the queen will sign it regardless of what she thinks

    what the royals *actually* do for us is mostly PR - they bring people into our country, and actually go round hte world as ambassadors for our country and businesses.

    succession currently is Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince Harry, then Prince Charles' brothers and sisters, followed by their kids in order of parents age i think

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    I think the question asked above though is how do they become a 'royal family' in the first place, and what happens when that family generation passes?

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    well they've been the same royal family for a pretty long time

    our current royal family is the same family (although its been married into several times) as its been for several hundred years.

    The monarchy is passed from oldest child to oldest child, and i think theres a fair bit of pressure for marriage and kids, so this line is likely to carry on for a while. there are rules of succession which mean that we wont 'run out' in a while..

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    It sounds like what is really happening is that the royal family is still there, but times have changed and delegation has been moved elsewhere. At least true influence.

    I think that's a really interesting subject. I've always wondered about that. I also didn't realize that Queen was over the UK. I thought it was the Queen of England too. Typical ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-places
    I think the question asked above though is how do they become a 'royal family' in the first place, and what happens when that family generation passes?
    Our current Royal Family are actually from German origin I believe. They changed their surname in the war so that the country wouldn't rise up against them. They would then look back at family trees to find the correct successor I guess, if that would ever happen.

    Lauren Stephens, I shouldn't worry too much about not know much about the royal family. Most of us know little about them too. I would call her the Queen of England too, Queen of the UK is a stupid sounding title. Didn't Scotland have royalty in the past anyway?
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    well its true that we're now what they call a 'constitutional monarchy', so the queen is the figurehead, but doesnt really have much of a say. everything she does is pretty much ceremony, but i quite like it myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomase
    Our current Royal Family are actually from German origin I believe. They changed their surname in the war so that the country wouldn't rise up against them. They would then look back at family trees to find the correct successor I guess, if that would ever happen.

    Lauren Stephens, I shouldn't worry too much about not know much about the royal family. Most of us know little about them too. I would call her the Queen of England too, Queen of the UK is a stupid sounding title. Didn't Scotland have royalty in the past anyway?
    i think they merged around the James II era 400-500 years ago - the stewart family (again its a 'think')

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    so, in all seriousness, how does the royal family make money?

    do they make money as a government entity of sorts? or is it mainly for appearances and things of that nature?
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    We pay for them in taxes and then each member gets a certain chunk. (Figures from 2000)

    The Queen: £7.9m

    Prince Philip: £359,000

    Queen provides £1.5m for:

    Prince Andrew: £249,000

    Duke and Duchess of Kent: £236,000

    Princess Anne: £228,000

    Princess Alexandra: £225,000

    Princess Margaret (above):£219,000

    Duke of Gloucester: £175,000

    Prince Edward: £141,000

    Princess Alice: £87,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slidey
    The monarchy is passed from oldest child to oldest child, and i think theres a fair bit of pressure for marriage and kids, so this line is likely to carry on for a while. there are rules of succession which mean that we wont 'run out' in a while..
    Not entirely true. It is passed first to the oldest son and then to his male children and then to the next oldest son and his siblings. If there are no males then it goes to the females. So at present we have:

    Prince Charles (sons Prince William, Harry)
    Princess Anne (son Peter and daugther Zara)
    Prince Andrew (daughter Princess Eugenie, and the other one)
    Prince Edward (baby daugther)

    Prince Charles is first in line, if however he doesn't want it (which may be the case) then it goes to his oldest son, Prince William. If Prince William doesn't want it then it goes to Prince Harry. If he doesn't want it then it skips Princess Anne and goes to Prince Andrew. If he doesn't want it then he has no male children so it goes to Prince Edward. If he doesn't want it then it goes back up to Princess Anne. And so on through the children ad nauseam.

    Therefore we only usually get a Queen of the previous King/Queen doesn't have any sons.

    What do they do for the country? Bring in lots of dollars from american tourists of course

    The Queen actually has alot of power, probably more than any head of government - it's just she is never likely to use it. She can remove the entire government at a whim and declare war.
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    I'd like to piggyback this thread.


    What's the difference between the united kingdom, and england?

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    The UK is made up of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is made up of England, Wales and Scotland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ub3r
    I'd like to piggyback this thread.


    What's the difference between the united kingdom, and england?
    Think of it as .. if you said I met Camers from England, that would be incorrect. Because I am Scottish. I am from the UK however, just not England (but Scotland).

    I can't believe Americans aren't educated on this.
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    It surprises me as well.

    It's like saying...

    Jimmy is from Texas (because he lives in the USA) but really he's from New York?

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    so then are they like several "states" under one country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
    so then are they like several "states" under one country?
    Well, I'd like to think of Scotland being a country aswell.
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    This is where it can get complicated

    England, Scotland and Wales are counties, but they (and NI) make up the UK which is also classed as a country.
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    so essentially, they are several countries that are united. ok, that makes sense.

    but let me ask this...

    is the "queen of england" also the queen of the other countries as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slidey
    i think they merged around the James II era 400-500 years ago - the stewart family (again its a 'think')
    It was Georg (George I), he was a foreigner that married in and became king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-places
    It sounds like what is really happening is that the royal family is still there, but times have changed and delegation has been moved elsewhere. At least true influence.

    I think that's a really interesting subject. I've always wondered about that. I also didn't realize that Queen was over the UK. I thought it was the Queen of England too. Typical ignorance.
    I actually started a thread about this a while back, search for "should Britian become a republic?", there's more information there about pro's and con's of each

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    ok, so what is great britain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
    so essentially, they are several countries that are united. ok, that makes sense.

    but let me ask this...

    is the "queen of england" also the queen of the other countries as well?
    She is the "Queen of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth Realms", so that's also places like Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
    ok, so what is great britain?
    Great Britain is the island, it is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex-Steve
    Great Britain is the island, it is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.
    oh my, this is totally confusing!

    i expect many americans have no clue about all these things!

    im going thru this page now

    http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page4819.asp#

    its very interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
    oh my, this is totally confusing!

    i expect many americans have no clue about all these things!
    Why am I not surprised.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fTsI_BsUvw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qti1iKIYZnc

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    Well, if you edit and show only the dumbest answers, that's what you get, eh?
    Not all Americans are that clueless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Stephens
    ok, so what is great britain?
    I've heard the guards at the palace wouldn't move while they're on duty. You can try punching them.
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    yes ive heard that as well.

    btw, the queen and the royal family have an amazing sense of style! bravo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex-Steve
    She is the "Queen of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth Realms", so that's also places like Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
    We are working on changing that

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