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09-11-2006, 10:56 AM #1WHT Addict
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Domain theft?
A customer of mine placed an order for the domain akvariefisk.com on sep. 8th. The order was not processed because he didn`t pay the invoice, which he did today.
Now, I found out that on the 9th, the domain was registered by:
Registrant:
Click Cons. Ltd (AKVARIEFISK-COM-DOM)
Kings Court, Bay Street
P.O. Box N-3944
Nassau,
BS
+852.30178436
+852.30178436
click@ClickConsultingLtd.com
Domain Name: AKVARIEFISK.COM
Status: PROTECTED
How can this happen? akvariefisk.com is made up by 2 norwegian words, and I`m sure those people at clickconsultingltd.com doesn`t even know what the words means..
Is it possible that someone is eavesdropping on whois searches made from my website?
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09-11-2006, 12:50 PM #2Aspiring Evangelist
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How is this domain theft?
The domain expired and was registered once it was available:
Domain Name: AKVARIEFISK.COM
Registrar: DOMAINDOORMAN, LLC
Whois Server: whois.domaindoorman.com
Referral URL: http://www.domaindoorman.com
Name Server: DNS2.DNS-PARKING-SERVICE.COM
Name Server: DNS1.DNS-PARKING-SERVICE.COM
Name Server: DNS.DNS-PARKING-SERVICE.COM
Status: ACTIVE
EPP Status: ok
Updated Date: 09-Sep-2006
Creation Date: 09-Sep-2006
Expiration Date: 09-Sep-2007WebsiteForum.com | Now Live ! DnsCheck.com | Coming Soon !
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09-11-2006, 01:37 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by fattee77
How you can say that something was stolen from you when it never was yours?Respect My Authoritah! - Eric Cartman (a friend of mine).
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09-11-2006, 03:03 PM #4WHT Addict
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I agree that it was never mine. Where can you see that it expired?
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09-11-2006, 03:42 PM #5Disabled
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Originally Posted by Vpower
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09-11-2006, 03:47 PM #6WHT Addict
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I just found it strange that the domain was registered the day after my client had placed an order for it..
Thanks for the answers anyay
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09-11-2006, 04:00 PM #7Disabled
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Originally Posted by Vpower
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09-11-2006, 04:17 PM #8WHT Addict
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I know.. it wasn`t me that waited, it was him that did not pay until today. Anyways, he registererd akvariefisk.org instead, and was happy with that
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09-11-2006, 07:08 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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Well it's not theft, I agree. But it's almost the same thing. Which whois searches did you use for searching for the domain? I think you should avoid using the same whois searches in the future.
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09-11-2006, 10:22 PM #10New Member
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Domain thief
Originally Posted by stu2
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Registrant:
Click Cons. Ltd (Mydomain-COM-DOM)
Kings Court, Bay Street
P.O. Box N-3944
Nassau,
BS
+852.30178436
+852.30178436
click@ClickConsultingLtd.com
Domain Name: Mydomain.COM
Status: PROTECTED
Record last updated on 11-Sep-2006.
Record expires on 11-Sep-2007.
Record created on 11-Sep-2006.
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I registered 3 domains with Enom, and other 2 are OK. I used whois search for Mydomain.com through GoDaddy, so I think that Click cons (underlying: DomainDoorman) monitors GoDaddy queries and steals our domain!
To note: Mydomain is mongolian word.
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09-12-2006, 01:27 AM #11Newbie
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Had the same thing happen to me eariiler this month! Was doing searches in the early hours (2-3am) of Sept 4th for a name to register for a small non-profit where I do some volunteer work. I found a never registered org domain (it did not exist). Since it was late and I didn't feel like running through all the numbers to open them up a Namecheap account at the time, I just went to bed.
Next morning, the domain was gone...registered at about 3am my time, right about the time I was searching. Can't remember whether it was the same company that registered it, but I remember they were in the Bahmas (saved the whois but can't find it right now).
I freaked. This was no coincidence.
Found a variation and registered the com, net & org of the variation real quick using my own Namecheap account.
BUT check this out. On Sept 8th, when I did a whois, the domain didn't exist? Huh? So I registered it that instant. So you guys should check your names in a day or so to see if they are again available.
I had been meaning to pop in here and ask how that happened and here I see this thread where it is happening to others. Is there a way to check history on a domain name?
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09-12-2006, 03:43 AM #12WHT Addict
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This whois server was used: whois.publicinterestregistry.net
From my own website, www.onebigbyte.no
I see that this domain has been registered before, used http://www.archive.org/web/web.php to see that..
anyway, it is so funny that they registered it the day after my client tried to register it.. Would have been funny to know when the domain actually expired?
Clickconsultingltd.com would probably get very rich now, now that they got themselves domain names with both norwegian and mongolian words
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09-12-2006, 03:56 AM #13Eternal Member
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Agreed, it is not theft, as it was never officially owned. However, I too am seeing an uncomfortable trend where domain shoppers are checking domain availability, then somehow (magically and all too conveniently), the domain is registered the next day by someone else. Seems highly suspect. Not to mention troubling.
When I shop for a domain name, I now make it a habit to register any domain name that I am considering developing. I no longer "mull it over" for a few days before deciding to spend the < ten bucks. If it's available, I simply register it on the spot. As a result, I end up with a few unwanted domains, but in the end, I never lose a domain that I really want to this type of suspect activity.
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09-12-2006, 04:25 AM #14WHT Addict
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sad that it is going this way, but probably not unexpected.. Maybe turn it into something "positive" from a selling point. After whois search, on the result page, I can place a warning, that if the customer don`t register it right away, it might be lost forever..
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09-12-2006, 08:41 AM #15Junior Guru Wannabe
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yeah, I had this problem where a domain was snatched from me when checking availability. Mine was under CapitolDomains (same company as DomainDoorman, just under a different registrar name). The funny thing is they threw my domain back 2 days after they registered it, so I was able to register it OK. I heard that they tend to throw back domains if they find them invaluable or don't get a lot of traffic, so my advice to people with this domain snatching problem is to just ignore the domain and hope they drop it, because they probably will if it's an uncommon domain or they find it not profitable.
Also, I noticed that checking for domain availability on GoDaddy or any ResellerClub reseller tends to get intercepted somehow. There was an article on CNET awhile ago about this. I always noticed though that running the "whois" command on a linux console to check domain availability never seem to get intercepted, so that's what I do now.
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09-12-2006, 09:32 AM #16Newbie
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Originally Posted by rjkeller
But then again, the reason it had not been registered before is because it would be basically useless to any squatters looking for future earnings. That is why I think this is some kind of bot snatching, registering, then holding for human review.
Is there some point at which the domain name gods (whoever they may be) would decide that these folks are abusing the system by registering names that are thrown back a day or so later?
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09-12-2006, 08:49 PM #17Newbie
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I think we should figure out which Whois is leaking information, then set up a script to query every possible combination. Drive them right into bankruptcy.
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09-12-2006, 09:44 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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Well, I'd imagine you customer would be able to pick-up the domain in another year, when it expires, and drops.
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Originally Posted by ReaperducerRespect My Authoritah! - Eric Cartman (a friend of mine).
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09-13-2006, 12:56 PM #20Disabled
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that is very weird - i ahave seen this many times, but i usually register with godaddy.com and i have never had any problems at all - i know it happened alot at networksolutions.com a bit back
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09-13-2006, 01:14 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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node13admin >> it's funny, because the most trustworthy story I've read was exactly about GoDaddy.
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09-13-2006, 03:21 PM #22Registered User
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This is straight from thier website those bastards!
Click Consulting, Ltd. employs algorithmic software to look for domain names that were previously deleted or dropped by the old registrant.
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09-13-2006, 03:26 PM #23Web Hosting Master
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And what exactly is wrong with that???
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09-13-2006, 03:34 PM #24WHT Addict
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It would have been interesting to know when that domain expired. I it just expired before it was registered again, it`s all just a coincidense.. but if it had been available for a longer period before the domain was registered it`s suspicious..
Btw. I just checked whois on the domain akvariefisk.com and they have dropped it.. so it`s available again.. (and my client won`t register it because he registered another domain..)
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09-13-2006, 04:22 PM #25Newbie
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Originally Posted by Vpower
When they started talking about a website again last month I decided to register the name just in case. I searched, it was still available...few hours later, it was gone. Four days later, it was available again.