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    Reselling hosting for a designer

    I've been reading te forum for a while and thought I would just ask eveyones advice. I'm a designer who hosts sites for clients and have decided that I should just start a reseller service for my clients and anyone who just needs hosting. I expect to grow fairly slowly but would like to offer a fairly competetive plan to customers. I tried Mosso for the past month thinking it may be the best solution, but there are far to many kinks to be worked out for it to be worth it. Here is

    What I would need...

    Budget: $25-100 (I'd be interested in starting small and increasing size down the road)

    Uptime and lots of it.

    Friendly tech support.

    Space: I need 10gb now, but will need more eventually.

    bandwidth: 250-500gb. (I'm guessing that 50gb per 1gb space is reasonable)

    Being that I design the sites I handle most of the hosting issues for my clients but would be interested in paying an additional amount for tech support for customers who would like to handle it themselves.

    Things I would like...

    Django (currently learning this)

    Help moving sites/email/databases

    Keep in mind that I am a designer. I don't mind learning the basics, but I don't have time for everything. I'd like something fairly well managed with a friendly environent for noobs like me. any ideas on a hosting service that might fit the description?

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    Do you really need 50GB transfer for one account? Or using up to 250 - 500GB transfer/month? With that requirement, I think a dedicated server is better than a reseller account. Think again about your requirements

    about the moving: I believe your new host can do something, but you would need to let us know what kind of control panel you are using currently

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    Space: I need 10gb now, but will need more eventually.

    bandwidth: 250-500gb. (I'm guessing that 50gb per 1gb space is reasonable)
    I think this is a bit on the large end for a shared reseller environment as far as resources go.

    May I ask if you actually need that many resources?

    I would suggest that you can get probably what you need for your budget and maintain yourself with a solid, reputable provider - purchasing what you need now and growing over time.

    If uptime is important, look for providers that publicly post their uptime stats - everyone can claim 99.9%, but, not as many deliver.

    Funally, do you have a control panel preference? would you prefer linux,freebsd, windows or all of the above?

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    So apparently I'm doing a good job of demonstrating my noob status. How much bandwidth per gb is apprpriate?

    ...and I'd prefer liinux, php5, mysql5. I realize that everyone loves cpanel, but I'm pretty open as far as control panels go. I'll have to research what is best a little more. Any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimum
    So apparently I'm doing a good job of demonstrating my noob status. How much bandwidth per gb is apprpriate?

    ...and I'd prefer liinux, php5, mysql5. I realize that everyone loves cpanel, but I'm pretty open as far as control panels go. I'll have to research what is best a little more. Any recommendations?

    There isn't really a webspace to bandwidth ratio. It's all dependent upon the needs of your end user. Some sites may have 2GB worth of files, but only use 500mb bandwidth... They aren't necessarily going to make all the web files available to everyone, or not everyone is going to see it....

    Basically, you need to look at the type of sites you are going to be hosting and decide upon that. However, one thing I can tell you is that a lot of sites rarely go past 10GB bandwidth per month...

    Good luck on your search
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    So apparently I'm doing a good job of demonstrating my noob status.
    LOL - not at all - by the sounds of it, you looked around the internet and saw some of these huge packages advertised and thought they were normal.

    How much bandwidth per gb is apprpriate?
    How much space does your average client take up? What sorts of clients do you have? are these small flyer type of websites, or are they high traffic generators?

    I realize that everyone loves cpanel, but I'm pretty open as far as control panels go. I'll have to research what is best a little more. Any recommendations?
    this board is pretty much cpanel dominated, but, there are other options. Take a look at plesk, hsphere, etc...

    ...and I'd prefer liinux, php5, mysql5.
    Not every host will offer these - do you code specifically for these versions? Eitherway, you should be able to find what you are looking for. If your sites are mysql intensive, I would look to spend around $1/GB of transfer for a reliable service. If your sites are mostly static in nature, you can probably get better rates without compromising stability and quality.

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    Hi!, its a smart decision to resell to your customers.. just remember before you buy make sure the company is trusted and reliable.. otherwise all your customers will hate you..

    All the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimum
    So apparently I'm doing a good job of demonstrating my noob status. How much bandwidth per gb is apprpriate?

    ...and I'd prefer liinux, php5, mysql5. I realize that everyone loves cpanel, but I'm pretty open as far as control panels go. I'll have to research what is best a little more. Any recommendations?
    Competitive ratios are between 10:1 and 20:1, of bandwidth:disk space. So if you had a 1 GB plan, 20 GB of bw is plenty, 10 is typical for a premum plan. Consider that most customers use about 2 GB per month.

    I would recommend the iBiz Panel hosting for it's reliability of 99.999% and in the long run, it's 10X cheaper than cPanel if you want to host thousands of "large" 1 GB websites, not a lot of small ones. Though it is at the high end of your budget.

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    ok...so 1 to 10 sounds like a solid ratio to offer. are there any companies that offer end user support on a case by case basis? i handle most of the hosting aspects of my client work, but i'd like to charge my clients a slightly higher fee if they want to manage it themselves so that i can pay for end user support. I'm also looking at starting fairly small right now and growing possibly to managed dedicated a bit down the road.

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    I recommend Sonet7/Liquidweb and Hostdime. We tryed both of them. We are continue to work with Hostdime at this time. The uptime is up than 99.5%. Average response time of our questions is one hour. All departments work everyday. They get daily and weekly backup. The prices inexpensive. You can upgrade your reseller account to a VPS or dedicated server at anytime. Their servers are managed. Good luck.
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    saying about control panel: running on Linux, I highly recommend DirectAdmin. It's stable, very easy to use. We have switched 20+ servers from cPanel to DirectAdmin and all customers are happy

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    I am a mosso customer. While early on, it is really advancing. Also, they are building their solution just for you. It is a designer/developer offer. They now have SSL and the stability has been much better. You might want to check out again. In terms of handling your migration, the might help, but most hosters will refer you to a migration specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimum
    I tried Mosso for the past month thinking it may be the best solution, but there are far to many kinks to be worked out for it to be worth it. Here is
    Could you specify what "kinks" you experienced. I have been looking at using mosso too and would be interested.

    Thank you,
    Art

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    Quote Originally Posted by froggerd
    I am a mosso customer. ... and the stability has been much better. ...
    Could you elaborate on how the stability was not so good before. I thought that the whole point of their setup and servers being at RackSpace was stability. So I am curiuos what stability problems they had and how they are better now.

    Thank you,
    Art

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