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  1. #26
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    You sure about that? Cos Mike says you've just been sat on your arse (Only joking).
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    Originally posted by Jordan
    Certain hosts/personalitys seem to have created a fiction that UK bandwidth is more expensive than US bandwidth.

    This is simply incorrect, for a start, a UUNet 2mbit LL is approx 14k per annum, depending on where you are.
    its closer to £ 20,000 / year if you're not buying in bulk.....


    2mbit will push 600gig per month if you push it constantly.
    lol....let me know how to achieve that, i'll be a happy man


    THis is equating to roughly £2.10 per gig, therefore a reasonable markup would perhaps be to £6-7 per gig.
    even at those figures how is £ 6 - £ 7 reasonable and comparitive to the US?????


    Cost of bandwidth goes through the floor when you start to look at transit bandwidth pricing (ie bandwidth delivered over ethernet into neutrel colo facilitys), Level3 bandwidth can be purchased for about £75 per meg per month as one example.
    (a typical rate for good quality UK bandwidth is 400-500 per month per mbit approx, depending on your deal and provider)
    very true....only because its contended and theres no transit fees though.....i only wish peering was possible in N.Ireland....lol....


    Frankly the likes of £20 per gig that some UK hosts seem to like is laughable and should be frowned apon by the consumer as a blatant rip off.
    big time......but the consumer doesnt see it until its too late.....


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  3. #28
    Jonny
    I think you are seeing the very cheap US prices and comparing them to UK prices.
    Most US colo places are charging $4 - $6 per GB
    This is not that far from £5 per GB
    The difference is marginal.
    Its even less if you are leasing a server with inclusive bandwidth.

    If you use band-x it gets even cheaper (but even crappier)

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    Could be Gordon.....

    i think the problem is ( or the problem i have ) is that theres just too many lying toerags out there promising this that and the other without actually being able to back it up.....

    if we lied and offered 10 times more data transfer per month, we'd get a shed load of extra customers....but we dont, we offer what people will 100% get and i mean enough for each and every customer.....

    point is...the consumer still hasnt really woken up to the web hosting industry.....and the real problem is theres no governing body responsible for its ethics and standards.....

    ho hum...

    </end rant>

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  5. #30
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    Originally posted by jonny b


    Not really....all they're saying is 'dont take the piss' ....if you've already filled one reseller account you should in the very least be getting a dedicated machine....

    you've already made a killing so time to re-invest a bit of that easy money

    Cheers,
    I checked out their dedicated servers and they are extremely overpriced and limited to 5GB of bandwith.

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    Gotti...then have a look elsewhere

    You'll have to move all your sites to the dedicated box anyway so moving from one provider to another at this stage isnt going to make much difference!

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  7. #32
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    Originally posted by jonny b
    Gotti...then have a look elsewhere

    You'll have to move all your sites to the dedicated box anyway so moving from one provider to another at this stage isnt going to make much difference!

    Cheers,

    Yeah exactly that's what the purpose of the post was. To find out of other hosts similar to donhost but with more flexible bandwith rules.

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    In a way i can understand donhosts view of one account per customer.
    On the other hand though saying move to a dedicated may be a bit extreme if you take rackshack as an example 400GB per month, 2 donhost accounts would only add up to 40GB a month and if thats all you need then why buy a server.

    Then again the price of 2 donhost accounts is about the same as a rackshack server and you have more potentil to grow

  9. #34
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    Originally posted by tazd9t9
    In a way i can understand donhosts view of one account per customer.
    On the other hand though saying move to a dedicated may be a bit extreme if you take rackshack as an example 400GB per month, 2 donhost accounts would only add up to 40GB a month and if thats all you need then why buy a server.

    Then again the price of 2 donhost accounts is about the same as a rackshack server and you have more potentil to grow
    well it's just amazing that donhost refused someting like that.
    some business model they have. their prices are very high but i liked their service

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    True they are turning away cash but i bet they work on the principle that not many popel know about places like this and if they say to lots of people no, you have to get our dedicated they wont know any better and they will pay for it

  11. #36
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    Originally posted by tazd9t9
    True they are turning away cash but i bet they work on the principle that not many popel know about places like this and if they say to lots of people no, you have to get our dedicated they wont know any better and they will pay for it
    Exactly. And where's the logic in this? Reseller is $55 and gets you 20gb of transfer and dedicated it $100 and gets you 5gb of bandwith.

    Additional bandwith for reseller is $22/gb and for dedicated it's $13/gb. Insane

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    Originally posted by Gotti


    Exactly. And where's the logic in this? Reseller is $55 and gets you 20gb of transfer and dedicated it $100 and gets you 5gb of bandwith.

    Additional bandwith for reseller is $22/gb and for dedicated it's $13/gb. Insane
    lol....theres a lot of logic in it.....its called sales

    the majority of resellers dont come close to using their allocations so a larger amount can be 'offered'....

    however.....if you need / want a dedicated machine you've obvioulsy got a lot more money / customers and will therefore require more bandwidth than a standard reseller account.....

    its the price you pay....fact is, if you've filled an entire reseller account, you're either making a lot of money or you need to revisit your pricing cause somethings a miss.....

    If its the former then you cant really complain as you'll now be offering your customer base a much better solution,

    Cheers,
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