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06-11-2002, 07:41 AM #1WHT Addict
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Donhost... what next?
Well, I've been with donhost - www.donhost.co.uk for a while now. Nice service and all. But there's a problem. A partner company would like to transfer 60 or so accounts to my company and they use about 10-20gig/month bandwith. Donhost reseller package is limited to 20gig/bandwith and additional GIG of bandwith is about $25 I contacted donhost and asked them if we could come to a sort of an agreement where i would purchase additional reseller packages to increase the bandwith limit. They refused and said they would only be interested in doing something like that for a dedicated server. I checked those and they have a 5GIG bandwith limit.
Ok to make a long story short. Is there any way to come to a deal with donhost or can anyone propose a similar europe-based host?
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Gotti
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06-11-2002, 09:13 AM #2Junior Guru
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I contacted donhost and asked them if we could come to a sort of an agreement where i would purchase additional reseller packages to increase the bandwith limit.
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06-11-2002, 11:18 AM #3Registered User
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Can i ask who said no at donhost? was in daniel, steve or john?
You could just buy a second reseller without trying to come to any deal with them, they have no legitimate reason to stop you doing this and there is nothing in their terms to stop you either
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06-11-2002, 12:27 PM #4WHT Addict
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Originally posted by tazd9t9
Can i ask who said no at donhost? was in daniel, steve or john?
You could just buy a second reseller without trying to come to any deal with them, they have no legitimate reason to stop you doing this and there is nothing in their terms to stop you either
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06-11-2002, 12:54 PM #5Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by Gotti
he said "we'll deal with this problem once u come close to the limit"
easier sorting it out from day 1....
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06-12-2002, 12:49 PM #6WHT Addict
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Agreed. Now if someone could suggest a host similar to donhost but a little more flexible?
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06-12-2002, 12:57 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Not European (why would you need that?) but good US Host is MCHost - www.mchost.com/plans/
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06-12-2002, 05:28 PM #8WHT Addict
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Originally posted by Gotti
Agreed. Now if someone could suggest a host similar to donhost but a little more flexible?
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06-12-2002, 07:25 PM #9Web Hosting Evangelist
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Originally posted by Gotti
yeah, need an european host
MCHost, or Flump.net are two I'd recommend on the basis of usage. As things stand at the moment I'd put Flump above MCHost at the moment
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06-13-2002, 06:18 AM #10Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by WebSnail.net
If you want a better price option and less "abrupt" service then you're probably best going to a US server based service.
MCHost, or Flump.net are two I'd recommend on the basis of usage. As things stand at the moment I'd put Flump above MCHost at the moment
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06-13-2002, 06:24 AM #11Registered User
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would a uk company but with servers based in the US be any good?
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06-13-2002, 07:23 AM #12Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by tazd9t9
would a uk company but with servers based in the US be any good?
Also remember...you'll save on VAT if you want to purchase direct from the US..... ( if you're not VAT registered! )
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06-13-2002, 07:29 AM #13Registered User
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It does make a difference, payment can be made in GBP which gets rid of exchange rate probs and tech support is in the same timezone, its just slightly cheaper because the servers are in the US
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06-13-2002, 07:52 AM #14Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by tazd9t9
It does make a difference, payment can be made in GBP which gets rid of exchange rate probs
Originally posted by tazd9t9
and tech support is in the same timezone
Cheers,Last edited by jonny b; 06-13-2002 at 07:58 AM.
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06-13-2002, 08:32 AM #15Registered User
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Still its up 2 them if they want to use a European host, this forum is 2 dominated by americans lol
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06-13-2002, 09:35 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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Hello
I still don't understand the £20 - £30 per GB thing.
We pay a fraction of that for bandwidth.
It makes me thing some companies use it to reduce headline prices but then stack it on with the overage.
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06-13-2002, 11:24 AM #17Registered User
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They are just extras to make more profit, if they think they can get away with it they will!
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06-13-2002, 12:05 PM #18Aspiring Evangelist
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1) I understand bandwidth is more expensive in the UK. If so there may be less leaway in dealing as compared to a US company.
2) My response to your question to Donhost was that you wanted to pay for two reseller accounts and have their resources combined. This is entirely a different situation than just signing up for another account. There are probably technical and management issues involved.
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06-13-2002, 01:41 PM #19WHT Addict
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Originally posted by tazd9t9
They are just extras to make more profit, if they think they can get away with it they will!
Not only that. They said "we dont allow more than one reseller account per person"
Its basically saying your money is no good here. Schoo!
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06-13-2002, 01:57 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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I understood that Donhost had a 2mbit line from UUNET
If thats the case then their bandwidth cost will be a lot less than £20 per GB.
There is no real excuse for these sorts of prices these days.
And the "UK is more expensive" line is just a bit of fog.
Its not that much more expensive.
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06-13-2002, 02:22 PM #21Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by Gotti
Not only that. They said "we dont allow more than one reseller account per person"
Its basically saying your money is no good here. Schoo!
you've already made a killing so time to re-invest a bit of that easy money
Cheers,Jonny b
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06-13-2002, 02:23 PM #22Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by GordonH
I understood that Donhost had a 2mbit line from UUNET
If thats the case then their bandwidth cost will be a lot less than £20 per GB.
There is no real excuse for these sorts of prices these days.
And the "UK is more expensive" line is just a bit of fog.
Its not that much more expensive.
GordonJonny b
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06-13-2002, 04:53 PM #23Junior Guru Wannabe
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Certain hosts/personalitys seem to have created a fiction that UK bandwidth is more expensive than US bandwidth.
This is simply incorrect, for a start, a UUNet 2mbit LL is approx 14k per annum, depending on where you are.
2mbit will push 600gig per month if you push it constantly.
THis is equating to roughly £2.10 per gig, therefore a reasonable markup would perhaps be to £6-7 per gig.
Cost of bandwidth goes through the floor when you start to look at transit bandwidth pricing (ie bandwidth delivered over ethernet into neutrel colo facilitys), Level3 bandwidth can be purchased for about £75 per meg per month as one example.
(a typical rate for good quality UK bandwidth is 400-500 per month per mbit approx, depending on your deal and provider)
Frankly the likes of £20 per gig that some UK hosts seem to like is laughable and should be frowned apon by the consumer as a blatant rip off.
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06-13-2002, 06:39 PM #24Web Hosting Master
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£20 a Gb is just a right gip these days, even £10 per Gb is pushing it for the UK market - but like someone else said, if they can get away with it then they will.
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06-14-2002, 02:42 AM #25Junior Guru Wannabe
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Busy busy busy...certainly haven't been doing nothing for the last year or so!
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