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    colocation ?

    I co location a good idea or just leasing a better one

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    what in the world are you asking?
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    He's asking whether he should rent a dedi or colo it.

    Since you are asking - no. You need to know a fair bit or pay a good admin to run it for you.
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    What type of systems do you require and for what purpose? For example, it may be justifiable to colocate a 4U unit with a ton of hard drives, Raid controller, and RAM but it'd be less justifiable to colocate a 1U with a generic config. In general, the more custom your config, the better colo is as an option. EVERYTHING is pretty much your responsibility as a COLO customer, but the advantage is that you're elmininating one "layer" between you and the end-user, which could translate to price advantage among other things.

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    Remember also the up front cost, if you rent the costs are almost nothing. Many people cannot afford to purchase a decent server so you are better off just renting. It really depends on your situation but for most people with a semi-normal single server it is not worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eth00
    Remember also the up front cost, if you rent the costs are almost nothing. Many people cannot afford to purchase a decent server so you are better off just renting. It really depends on your situation but for most people with a semi-normal single server it is not worth it.
    Yep the upfront cost is not worth it if your only doing 1-4 basic servers or semi-custom servers.

    Remember doing colo also requires extra money as your not only buying say 1 server, but your really going to be buying 2 because you need spare parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobM
    Yep the upfront cost is not worth it if your only doing 1-4 basic servers or semi-custom servers.
    I dont necessarily agree with this. If you have the money available for the servers, spares, etc then colocation is always better imho. Why throw money out the window if you do not have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaxen
    I dont necessarily agree with this. If you have the money available for the servers, spares, etc then colocation is always better imho. Why throw money out the window if you do not have to.
    Because it may be more cost effective, if you are renting a low end P4 or celeron for around $100-150 a month (or less) with a decent amount of bandwidth you may end up paying MORE for colocation. On top of that you are responsible for the hardware, if you are serious about it that means spares on hand or at least ready to purchase stuff quickly.

    There are a lot of factors that go into colocation and for some people it actually is cheaper to not in some circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaxen
    I dont necessarily agree with this. If you have the money available for the servers, spares, etc then colocation is always better imho. Why throw money out the window if you do not have to.
    Every situation is different though. What if the OP doesn't know how to work with hardware, replace a hard drive, rebuild a raid array etc.. What about administering a server, IE if it needs a manual fsck, has a corrupt /etc/shadow file, etc.. There is a lot more to colo then just buying a server.

    To the OP, it depends how comfortable you are with with the aforementioned things along with 2000 other things. The answer depends on the individual/company so it varies greatly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobM
    Yep the upfront cost is not worth it if your only doing 1-4 basic servers or semi-custom servers.
    Depends what you have running in that space. You could have a highly custom setup with highend hardware, that would cost you a small fortune to rent each month. Colo is hard in the cheap server market, but makes more sense when you get into higher spec servers and custom setups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
    Depends what you have running in that space. You could have a highly custom setup with highend hardware, that would cost you a small fortune to rent each month. Colo is hard in the cheap server market, but makes more sense when you get into higher spec servers and custom setups.
    If I replied, it would be what Bob said.
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    The main benefit of colocation that you won't get with dedicated server is the full control of your opertion. This is why we started with colocation, even when we only had 5 servers to start with. We had 1 rack and 1 Mbps for $1150/month. Took us quite a while to break even. But it seemed to have work well for us, especially since being able to control our own operation (on every level, as much as possible) is our main business operating philosophy.

    I guess, to each their own way... Can't say which one will be better for you. It depends on what you value more.
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