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Junior Guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 200

2 hosts for sale

$17,000 pushed through 2checkout
$115,000 (minus some chargebacks) in Modernbill

Modernbill active customers Ė 464 (450 realistic, some may not be active anymore)

Last 6 months of billing invoices:
March: $4,848.24
February: $4,543.30
January: $3,960.66
December: $3,735.31
November: $3,825.63
April: $4,589.37
Total due: $6,509.16

Hosting company #2
Modernbill Ė 162 customers
April: $1,537.73
March: $2,884.26
February: $3,378.83
January: $849.51
December: $952.65
November: $1,650.24
Total due: $6,183.90

Iíve owned the original hosting company since it started in early January of 2003. I was very stingy with my plans and it was very difficult to market this hosting company because no one saw the plans in hosting directories because who would search for 1 GB of bandwidth or 100 MB of space for $4.95/mo. Because of this though, the server tend to not get filled up as much. As a result, we have 969 accounts on this server and right now itís 91.7% idle with a load of .32. Sure it spikes when heavy MySQL or Exim are used, but all in all it can handle a lot more accounts. Most of the clients have simple html pages and use up no resources at all. There are, of course, a few that do not. Also, not all 969 accounts are from clients, some clients have more than one site and we have a few resellers, but around 200 of the accounts are my own sites or sites of my friends that I host for free. Iíll move these to another server before or during the sale. Iíve stopped marketing this company and it grows only via word of mouth right now. It grows about 50-75 customers per year after cancellations. One other important factor to note here is that the vast majority of the customers are paying monthly. You will be hosting very few accounts that have paid for a year already.

As for the second hosting company, I bought it last December on Ebay. I believe itís about 1.5 years old. The server was held together with duct tape and the old owner lied to me on many occasions. It was my first and only hosting company purchase, and overall it went pretty well. The biggest problem was I decided right away to get a merchant account for it. Past complaints and promised credits to customers caught up to us and before we knew it we had a 2% chargeback rate. Rather than call us and ask us for a refund, customers simply charged back. Our merchant account told us there was no point in disputing or even trying to work with the customers on these chargebacks since it was unlikely weíd end up with too many of them. Well, we ended up with too many. I lost the merchant accounts for both hosting companies this way and havenít been billing either of them for over a month. As part of this sale, the new owner will get all chargeback notices (so as to know which hosting customers never to bill again) and the ability to back-charge all customers that are getting free hosting right now for both hosting companies. As mentioned above, thatís over $12,500. Realistically $10,000 of it should be paid. If you have experience with Modernbill, you know the numbers never seem to fully catch up to each other with owed and paid. As for this second hosting company, many of the customers are paying bi-annually or annually. You will need to host many of them for a while before they pay you again.

The reason Iím selling is Iím tired of owning hosting companies. For the most part I have one guy that runs these 2 companies for me. He handles the phone support, email support, and administration. He does a pretty good job of this, however many customers still call, email, or IM me directly though. Iím more of a webmaster and a marketer than an admin/support guy and I donít like handling support at all. I figured by now, after more than 3 years in business, the hosting business would be more lucrative for me, but it just isnít. After credit card fees, server fees, and paying this guy to run the business for me, it doesnít make me a whole lot. In the right hands, these 2 companies would make someone else a lot more money if they had offshore support, or in-house level 1, 2, and 3 support, admins, etc. Having one person run all of the above isnít efficient or cost effective. This doesnít mean Iím desperate to sell, but it does mean Iím willing to part with my baby (and the newer bought hosting company) for a good price. Iíve got a merchant account app sitting here on my desk and Iím debating on whether itís worth the effort to fill out and get these companies billing again. Iíd rather sell though, so contact me with your questions. You will need to sign an NDA in order to learn the domains.

Also, I'd consider splitting these up for the sale but would prefer to sell them together.

AIM: leifer2
ICQ: 293789555

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Junior Guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 200
I want to point out both servers are Dual Xeon and Cpanel. Both have a good deal of capacity left on them.

Junior Guru
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: wilbur ,washington
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please email me your contact info

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Can you please email some price details to


Junior Guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
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The current offer is for me to split them up with $80k for the larger company with no offer on the smaller company.

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If this is still up for sale please send me info:

Junior Guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Which one are you intersted in? I didn't sell either.

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Originally Posted by Leif
Which one are you intersted in? I didn't sell either.
Can you email me?


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