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It looks like Canada is getting some criticism over the seal hunt, as seen at:
http://reuters.myway.com/article/200...-SEALS-DC.html
What do you think? If they don't kill the seals, should the Canadians settle for catching less fish? Should they use improved technology to harvest more fish, leaving the seals to figure out how to get enough to eat. If we boycott Canadian fish, should we take more cholesterol-lowering drugs? Should I drive up to British Columbia to save money on Lipitor if I boycott Canadian fish?
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03-26-2006, 06:07 AM
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This whole thing is a bunch of hooey. I can stand protesters but not celebrities who like to stick their head in other people's business.
"It's disgusting when you stand out here and look at what the seals have been through already. They're clinging on for life as it is, thanks to the effects of global warming," said the society's Rebecca Aldworth.
Hmmm clining on to life and there is a reported six million seals?? Maybe the Human Society of the United States should leave Canada. It isn't their business at all.
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03-26-2006, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by macdonaldp
This whole thing is a bunch of hooey. I can stand protesters but not celebrities who like to stick their head in other people's business.
"It's disgusting when you stand out here and look at what the seals have been through already. They're clinging on for life as it is, thanks to the effects of global warming," said the society's Rebecca Aldworth.
Hmmm clining on to life and there is a reported six million seals?? Maybe the Human Society of the United States should leave Canada. It isn't their business at all.
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Agreed. Sure they're far more cute then fish, but food is food, and seals (to many) are food (or to others, resources [pelts]), ignoring the fact they're quickly over-populating the region at that.
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03-26-2006, 06:53 AM
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I am waiting for peta to show up to blab their worthless mouths...
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03-26-2006, 09:11 AM
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The people who do it need to be clubbed to death.
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03-26-2006, 10:14 AM
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Is there a reason they can not just shoot the seals with a bullet to the head? Seems like it would be less painful for the seal.
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03-26-2006, 10:36 AM
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It seems that this year rifles were used a lot, mainly because the ice floes were smaller than usual, making clubbing impractical. Rifles have their disadvantages. Get too close, and ricochets off the ice could be a hazard. Fire from a distance, and there are increased misses or painful woundings, which seems to be among the things that the Humane Society people are complaining about. A seal resting on the ice would probably not be a difficult target except that firing from a boat is what makes accuracy poor.
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03-26-2006, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Disgruntled
It seems that this year rifles were used a lot, mainly because the ice floes were smaller than usual, making clubbing impractical. Rifles have their disadvantages. Get too close, and ricochets off the ice could be a hazard. Fire from a distance, and there are increased misses or painful woundings, which seems to be among the things that the Humane Society people are complaining about. A seal resting on the ice would probably not be a difficult target except that firing from a boat is what makes accuracy poor.
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If they can get close enough to club them in the head they can certainly shoot them from afar or near.
I'd much rather get shot to death rather than clubbed over the head.. :|
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03-26-2006, 11:32 AM
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Bullets crack the ice too. At some place, the ice is thin and a bullet could break it.
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03-26-2006, 11:33 AM
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Bullets crack the ice too. At some place, the ice is thin and a bullet could break it.
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I'm certain so can some guy pounding on a seal's head with a club.
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03-26-2006, 11:35 AM
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Not really. Ive clubbed a few seals before. 99% of the time, it's well done and a quick 1 hit death. Of course, sometimes they miss...just like when hunter graze a dear or anything. But generally, i dont think it's totally inhumane. Might be brutal, but it's the best way to do it.
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03-26-2006, 12:06 PM
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For myself, given a choice between being clubbed, shot, or neither I'd pick the third one. Of course I'm looking at that hypothetical choice from a situation of having abundant food. Competition for the fish makes the seals' situation less comfortable.
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03-26-2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by babychi
The people who do it need to be clubbed to death.
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It's easy for you and others to talk, seal hunting is a very important source of income for many families. Quotas are in place to control the seal population and seals under a certain age are protected.
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03-26-2006, 05:16 PM
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1. Communities that rely the most on seal and fish hunt here are native people communities. If anyone has any right to hunt those seals it is them.
2. I can find a link if needed talking about independent commission that established that 97% of seals are killed with the first hit (no pain)
3. At this moment, thanks to the actions of Canadian government, there are too many seals. If some of them are not eliminated, many more will starve.
4. The greatest problem for the seal population is global warming and ice (or lack of ice) not the hunt
This fuss about seal hunt is here simply because it is easier to complain about some nameless native fisherman making his living in a way his parents and grandparents did, rather then talking about real problem and global warming and what is being done (or not done ) about it.
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03-26-2006, 05:27 PM
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It should be noted that the majority of those doing the hunting are "Native Americans" (North American aboriginals, for those outside the USA) living in the local area's subsistance communities.
Which raises the question: Aren't these hunters precisely the folks that the rich white environmentalists hold up as the "wholistic" ecological ideal...?
But now those same rich white environmentalists invade a poor community, destroy the jobs of blue-collar workers, excoriate non-whites for having an inferior culture, and devastate the local economy -- on the grounds that they "care"...?
Eliz.
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