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Little Help -- read more inside


Dear WHT members,

I need a little help doing some research on this company called http://www.caixasweden.com/

A friend of mine needs a loan of $7.5 million for a hotel but they want him to wire transfer $500,000 to their account to approve the loan. He is going to sell his house etc for this money, and that is a huge risk to take.

This is where I need your help, if you have any information regarding the reliability of this company http://www.caixasweden.com/ or http://www.trustcoban.com/ which seems to be the same institution, it would be highly apperciated.

Perhaps someone who has done business with them in the past?

Something just does not feel right about that company. I need to prove to him that they are unsecure and scam artists.

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A company which has the capability of loaning out $7.5 million hosting with 123-Reg?

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.....com&cache=off

Record expires on 08-Apr-2008.
Record created on 08-Apr-2005.

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I'm no expert in financial loans of this size, but I think common sense prevails here.

1. He needs money. I would never pay someone cash upfront in order to get money. It's a loan - that's what interest is for. Whether financial institutions do this or not, I would not use one that insisted on this.

2. The "business" is in Sweden, the owner is in Australia and the technical contacts are in the UK. If this goes belly up, who are you going to go after?

3. Don't you think a bank that specializes in large investment loans might have gone a little more professional route with their site development? I'll leave it to you to click the "designed by" link.

4. http://www.caixasweden.com/international_transfer.php - Check out the information being requested. You're telling me you would process this in a non-secure environment???

5. Check the home page again. How do you spell the word "debit?"

I have no evidence this bank/site is less than legitimate, but I have plenty of reasons why I would not venture to find out, especially for $500k!

Tell him to go to the nearest Citibank or Chase or JP Morgan or some other reputable international bank and get his loan there.

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2. The "business" is in Sweden, the owner is in Australia and the technical contacts are in the UK. If this goes belly up, who are you going to go after?
Don't forget the Web design company in Bulgaria, Paul.

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The leading Bulgarian web design team.
We are looking for foreign co-operation.

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Let's put the nail in the coffin on this one.

The lender that handles large loans on bahalf of Caixa is TIB Client Services, Inc.

Check this out: http://services-tib.com/_wsn/page4.html

Their address is a P.O. Box, and they have no phone number.

Looks like a real winner here

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I have no evidence this bank/site is less than legitimate, but I have plenty of reasons why I would not venture to find out, especially for $500k!

Tell him to go to the nearest Citibank or Chase or JP Morgan or some other reputable international bank and get his loan there.
Good call.......

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When a bank is going to loan out a sum such as 7.5 Million, they are not going to allow you to do everything online or via the phone. You are going to have to meet with them in person.

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Thanks everyone! I apperciate all the help, more comments/feedback would help a lot.

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more comments/feedback would help a lot.
more? have you really not seen enough

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Dear WHT members,

I need a little help doing some research on this company called http://www.caixasweden.com/

A friend of mine needs a loan of $7.5 million for a hotel but they want him to wire transfer $500,000 to their account to approve the loan. He is going to sell his house etc for this money, and that is a huge risk to take.

This is where I need your help, if you have any information regarding the reliability of this company http://www.caixasweden.com/ or http://www.trustcoban.com/ which seems to be the same institution, it would be highly apperciated.

Perhaps someone who has done business with them in the past?

Something just does not feel right about that company. I need to prove to him that they are unsecure and scam artists.
Hey, everything about that transaction sounds fine by me.

BTW, if your friend still has any money left after that transaction, tell him that I've got a Bridge in Brooklyn that I want to sell to him at a discount.

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3. Don't you think a bank that specializes in large investment loans might have gone a little more professional route with their site development? I'll leave it to you to click the "designed by" link.
Oh my...stunning, isn't it?

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On the main website, click on Home Mortgages, leave everything blank and hit submit... it's obviously a shared hosting account:

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Warning: implode(): Bad arguments. in /home/john778/public_html/home_mortgages.php on line 133 Warning: file(inc/home_mortgages.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/john778/public_html/home_mortgages.php on line 135 "Caixa Sweden"
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Here's the breakdown:

caixasweden.com is registered to John Roque in Sydney Australia
The business address is in Sweden.
Hosting is in the U.K.
Web services come from Bulgaria

services-tib.com is registered in to John Roque in Rio Di Janeiro
The business address is a P.O. Box in Dominica
Hosting is through Register.com
The site was created using Register.com's site builder
The fax number is for a phone line in Manhattan

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more comments/feedback would help a lot.
I will personally truck my *** up to Brampton and bitch-slap your friend into next week if he proceeds with this "bank."

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I will personally truck my *** up to Brampton and bitch-slap your friend into next week if he proceeds with this "bank."
I'll catch a ride with you and we can go slap him together

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I wouldn't give $500k to any bank unless it's big and world-wide recognized bank. Tell your friend to go with a known bank if he doesn't want to get scammed.

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