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[VodkaFish]

Hello all, been reading as many threads as I can and I was wondering if I missed a company somewhere that perhaps I should look at before giving yet another company some money.

I'm looking for an unmetered server (just one at the moment) on a reliable network. I am not looking to share ports and such, and I am not looking for some sort of flex-cap.

20-30Mbps would be ideal with the possiblity of going to 50 later on (and being able to go back down wouldn't be horrible either). 30's better than 20, and 10 isn't doable.

From what I'm reading it seems that some normally good server companies don't always have the best unmetered solutions, so I'm just trying to absorb it all.

I'm not looking for anything special in terms of a machine. A single proc, 1gm ram is probably fine, as well as any hd.

voxrox seems to have very positive reviews. Their price is slightly higher than most, but if the service is indeed reliable and a 30 port is truly a 30 port, I guess it's probably on par, although I do notice the bandwidth is called "voxel value bandwidth", so I assume it's just one provider, like cogent? Oh, and as for price, tack on another $20 for Win2K3 (my preference).

They're in NYC which is great for me as I'm there as well, but the audience is mostly a US/Canada mix and centralized locale doesn't hurt. All my current machines are in TX, no one seems to complain, including the European crowd.

The Planet seems maxed out, but I read there should be more pipe soon. If the 20 port can be used at true speed, it's obviously a good deal there. I have other servers with them and have been happy with them so far for the most part. They're cogent as well.

I've seen some people suggest Orangefiber. It seems to have generally good reviews. Decent price, 20 port, extra for Win, cogent I believe.

Steadfast has also been recommended. I'm not in the premium network range yet. The value network still seems higher priced, but they write that it's more than just cogent. Win is more here too, adding to the price. Wish they had a 30Mbps option.

dedizone has some great looking deals here on WHT and on their website, but there's little feedback on them.

Anyone I'm overlooking? Does anyone besides voxrox offer 30Mbps?

[VINAX]

If you don't care too much about bandwidth quality, you can try OrangeFiber.
If you want good bandwidth, you can try steadfast at their Value Network . Both of them are good price, network, and support.

[VINAX]

Originally Posted by VodkaFish

Is the bw quality that different between voxrox, orangefiber and steadfast (value network)?

of course

[tical]

Originally Posted by VodkaFish

Is the bw quality that different between voxrox, orangefiber and steadfast (value network)?

Not really. Cogent, AboveNet, nLayer and BTN are all relatively one in the same.

[almecho]

gnax is another provider you could look at. There in Atlanta so I'm not sure how that works for you geographically, but it could be worth having a chat to them about what they can offer you on their silver network (premium inbound mix with cogent outbound).

They can do 10, 20, 50 & 100Mb unmetered ports that I am aware of, and by all reports they run a fairly tight ship. I've been looking at grabbing some colo space there and there seems to be a lot of good stories about them.

Make sure you actually contact them though about your specific needs rather than just plough through the web site, as they do run specials from time to time and the unmetered pricing on the website looks like it might be gold network pricing...

http://www.gnax.net & http://www.tranxactglobal.com

[KarlZimmer]

Originally Posted by tical

Not really. Cogent, AboveNet, nLayer and BTN are all relatively one in the same.

They are one in the same? Then you have not been paying attention. Out of those, I'd have to say nLayer is definitely superior. They have some very nice routes and the staff there definitely knows what they're doing. I definitely can't say the same about Cogent and Abovenet.

[music]

Cogent did some upgrades recently and has showen continued improvement. Most of the value ISP's get the bad name from the resellers over selling.

[JonathanLH]

definitely have a look at *******, email jim@ with what you want and he'll hook you up.
They are based in seattle, we have one of their 10mbit servers (that has never, not once been able to not get 10mbit - it's a very busy shoutcast and torrent relay) that is rock solid stable with win2k3 at a price I doubt anyone can beat!

[VodkaFish]

Thanks for the additional suggestions. I guess I'll write a few with my exact needs and see who can offer me what I want, on what networks and at what price.

[MSV_AR]

Other than lower latency, there is nothing you can't acheive at the same potential using Cogent, or using nLayer or another provider.

If you're looking for streaming, file downloads, etc; everything will be 99.9% comparable other than lower pings.
The only differance is cost, others might try to upsell you but if you give all the options a fair and just trial, you will see that there is almost no differance.

[MSV_AR]

Originally Posted by ServerVina

If you don't care too much about bandwidth quality, you can try OrangeFiber.
If you want good bandwidth, you can try steadfast at their Value Network . Both of them are good price, network, and support.

I don't consider us to be "lower quality", we use a BGP4 blend of Abovenet and Cogent, and will be adding Global Crossing to that mix shortly.
You could argue that since Global Crossing is a Tier1 carrier, and nLayer is a Tier2, that we would have better bandwidth than SteadFast.

[VodkaFish]

Originally Posted by MSV_AR

Other than lower latency, there is nothing you can't acheive at the same potential using Cogent, or using nLayer or another provider.

If you're looking for streaming, file downloads, etc; everything will be 99.9% comparable other than lower pings.
The only differance is cost, others might try to upsell you but if you give all the options a fair and just trial, you will see that there is almost no differance.

My main concern is when I read here about FDC (mostly the resellers, but I guess it's all the same network) and such and how it's always a clogged pipe - and that you get a 100 port, but if you sustain just 20 for a couple of hours you can get capped at 10. These are the situations I'm looking to avoid.

The server will just be mainly for hosting files, it won't be the main web server.

[MSV_AR]

Well, it being a congested pipe, falls on FDC's management of their network and resources, not Cogent.
Concentrate on finding a company that maintains a large enough network, with capacity for all their clients so that you don't experience congestion.
FDC's model is based off shared bandwidth, that is only one of several differant offerings available in the unmetered market.
Look for dedicated unmetered bandwidth.

[KarlZimmer]

Originally Posted by music

Cogent did some upgrades recently and has showen continued improvement. Most of the value ISP's get the bad name from the resellers over selling.

We have connectivity to Cogent at the moment and we're looking to cut them for a reason... When there is an issue, getting the ear of someone who knows what they are doing is nearly impossible and it takes a minimum of several hours to resolve anything. Their routes/latency have definitely improved though, nLayer is still superior in that area though.

[swflnetworks]

Personally, both steadfast and Orangefiber were recommended here. I think the best thing they could do is stay out of the conversation, as Orangefiber is already trying to sway the OP.