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[P Lemon]

is there any cpanel admin section demos i know plesk does but cpanel site doesnt are their any third party sites that do?

[FirmbIT]

Give this a try:

http://www.resellerspanel.com/cpanel...les/index.html

[P Lemon]

thanks i dunno i kinda like plesk

[CiscoMike]

look at directadmin. it's better than both by far. smaller footprint, less memory, more reliable. but at least you're looking at plesk over cpanel, that's a good start.

[ayksolutions]

Originally Posted by CiscoMike

look at directadmin. it's better than both by far. smaller footprint, less memory, more reliable. but at least you're looking at plesk over cpanel, that's a good start.

I wouldn't say DA is better than both by far. If it was, it would be the leading panel as of now. However, it is falling very, very far behind. I think the most promising panel coming up is Hsphere since you can do a lot through it (true clustering, billing, gui) but it still lacks features that cpanel has. I can see that its your personal choice, but I think the masses would tend to disagree.

[CiscoMike]

Originally Posted by ayksolutions

I wouldn't say DA is better than both by far. If it was, it would be the leading panel as of now. However, it is falling very, very far behind. I think the most promising panel coming up is Hsphere since you can do a lot through it (true clustering, billing, gui) but it still lacks features that cpanel has. I can see that its your personal choice, but I think the masses would tend to disagree.

what do most hosts need:

vhost administration (aka domain/site creation)
dns management
email management (including spam control)
mysql management (including phpmyadmin which doesn't even need a CP actually)
file management
anti-virus
backups
webmail access (again, not part of the CP but ok...)

cPanel/WHM offers entirely too much but even worse, in a semi-unstable state and with rediculious dependancies. You're 100% right, DA doesn't offer every feature that cPanel does and for good reason and exactly the reason why DA is a better product than cPanel (same with Plesk, not overloaded, not cumbersome, not as resource intensive thus a more solid product). People demand cPanel mostly out of ignorance and that's a pretty damn bold statement to make but it's 100% true. They are unfamiliar with another product, they are scared to switch and they continue to rely on a severely oversized and overcomplicated product that they maybe use 10% of the features of.

Yes, there are those (very few I'm willing to bet) that use every single feature of cPanel. Good for them. outside of the items I listed above, which all 3 panels support as does VirtualMin and Interworx as well, why cPanel? Because it's the "industry leader"? To take a stab at the very hand that feeds me, that's like saying, "We NEED a Cisco switch because they're the industry leader" even though they only need striaght up L2 switching and aren't dealing with oversubscription.

There are MUCH better solutions out there than cPanel, people are just afraid to branch out. Your server will thank you for not using it, however.

[ayksolutions]

Definitely can't argue with that. I would agree that DA is a less resource-instensive panel. I would also agree with you that I myself have never used all of the things available via Cpanel, however, its nice that they are there in case you need them.

You mentioned that some of Cpanel's features aren't completely stable? I have yet to come across something that did not work correctly within that panel and I have been using it successfully for quite some time now. As far as it's being an industry leader and thus we MUST use it, that's not correct either. The reason people use it is because of its ease-of-use, familiarity and integration with 3rd party modules.

At one point all of these control panels were on the same level. I even remember when sometime ago Ensim was one of the actual leaders, now as far as I know, the only large DC's that offer it are EV1 and Planet (but they offer everything else too, so...). So, it has been left in the dust, and for a good reason. It is a very confusing and cumbersome panel to use. While it may not be as resource demanding, to complete new web users (most of the clients are a lot of times) that panel just will not do due to its poorly laid out interface.

I'll re-enforce that if you are dealing with users/clients that are somewhat familiar with the whole 'running a Website' deal, for them, I am sure Cpanel is not necessary. However, in this business, catering to customers needs and wants is what makes the business run and I have not once met a client who contacts our pre-sales department and asks whether or not we are running DirectAdmin, they always come back to CPanel.

You were also right that clients are stubborn and not prone to change as most of the people are. That's why Windows is still so popular. Oh, and cisco's product is just more higher quality than others. Same thing goes for Ipod and Iriver (a comptetitor). Sure, they do the same thing (L2 switching in your example) and you could use Iriver player for it, however, that thing will break down on you in less than a month, while Ipod will keep on chugging. My point is that Ipod and Cpanel are not industry leaders for nothing, they did and still are doing something right if there is such a demand for their product. Besides, there is always room for improvement.