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    Cali inmate schedule to die tonight after midnight

    I am sure a lot of you are aware of this, but the co-founder of the Crips gang in LA is scheduled to die by injection shortly after midnight, after some waiting on Schwarzenegger's (how the hell do you spell that?) decision on whether or not they should go forth with it. The ruling was for the execution.

    I personally agree with that, although 26 years is a bit too long to wait to be executed.
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    Unhappy

    What a terrible long 26 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude
    What a terrible long 26 years

    God bless him whatever they decide
    Yes, and the four he murdered and their families as well.
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    Hopefully they don't wimp out and postpone it.. This guy deserves what he is getting and the only shame is that innocent people had to be the victim of this animal and we had to waster (18 i think?) years of taxpayers dollars waiting to get this over with.

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    He killed a store clerk, his wife and their daughter. He also killed another store clerk in a separate robbery. He is a great example of who should get the death penalty. Lethal injection is much to humane for him though.

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    I think he has done some good work after he killed four people. But that cannot take away the fact that he did kill four people. He has also said he didn't do it, but the information against him is quite extensive.

    I applaud him for the work he has done to try to change his life around, but he took four lives and this cannot be taken back. If he didn't kill the four people, ofcourse I say life in prison. But you cannot go back in the past and fix this. These people are never comming back, because he murdered them. There should not be a double-standard here.
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    If you're going to kill someone, then it's evident that you don't have any value for life. If that's the case, you shouldn't have a life to life..

    I guess it's legit that he's getting the death penalty.
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    Not only did he kill four pepole, the SOB shot them in the back!!
    He is getting what he deservers.
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    I personally think that it is a shame that he was able to postpone it this far. He deserves a painful death; I agree mwrave. Lethal Injection is too humane. Most people die with more pain than he probably will. He should get shot, so as he is dying he will know the hell that he brought to the four people he killed.
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    Although Mr. Williams has written some anti-gang childrens books, I wouldn't say he has turned his life around. How anti-gang is he when he is still a member of the Crips? I'm sorry that tonight the State of California will take a human life, but Mr. Willaims set that ball in motion when he decided to become judge, jury and executioner those many years ago. What chance did that store clerk have when Mr. Williams fired two shotgun blasts into his back (he was already laying face down on the floor as ordered) and then laughed at him as he gurgled his last breath? Why did he 12 days later kill three family members?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwrave
    He killed a store clerk, his wife and their daughter. He also killed another store clerk in a separate robbery. He is a great example of who should get the death penalty. Lethal injection is much to humane for him though.
    Sure, because killing him (person who for the last 20 years is doing anything he can to educate children about eveilness of gangs) will bring back those people.

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    He is educating children just because he wants his life to be spared. Do you know the recidivism rates for killers? They are extremely high. You are right that killing him doesn't bring back the people he killed, but it sends a message that we will punish our criminals to the fullest extent possible. Also I know if I was related to any of those four people killed I would want him to die a slow and painful death. He is getting what he deserves, and people getting put to death may help save people in the long run.
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    As hanus as his crimes were, I cannot bring myself to accept a government has the right to kill a criminal, as punishment.

    Quoting Kate Mulgrew (Captain Janeway from STV) - "Execution as punishment is barbaric and unnecessary".

    I tend to agree with that opinion, but then again, that's just my opinion too.

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    Excerpt from the Los Angeles County DA response to Stanley Williams petition for executive clemency:

    XVII.
    CONCLUSION
    Stanley Williams does not deserve the mercy of clemency. The evidence clearly
    establishes that Stanley Williams shot-gunned Albert Owens, Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang, and
    Yee-Chen Lin to death. These murders were truly horrific.
    What man orders another human being to lie face down on the floor and then proceeds
    to shoot him two times in the back at close range with a shotgun? What man later laughs when
    he tells his friends how the victim gurgled as he lay dying? Stanley Williams, the admitted cofounder
    of one of the most violent gangs in existence, is that man. What man, days after shotgunning
    Albert Owens to death, forces his way into a motel and executes three members of a
    single family? Stanley Williams is that man.
    One can only imagine Albert Owens’ terror as he lay face down on the floor of the
    storage room at the 7-Eleven and heard the first shotgun blast that was fired into the security
    monitor. Was he hoping against hope he would not be shot to death? Was he thinking of his
    two young daughters and whether he would ever see them again, hold them again, tell them
    how much he loved them again?
    Before crossing paths with Stanley Williams, Albert Owens had proudly served in the
    United States military. He had fathered two beautiful daughters. He had recently moved to Los
    Angeles to make a better life for him and his family. Stanley Williams took that dream away.
    He took it away from Albert, his daughters, and his entire family. (P. Exh. 28; P. Exh. 29).
    Imagine the fear that engulfed Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang, and their daughter, Yee-
    Chin Lin as they experienced their last moments alive. Imagine the terror and despair of Robert
    Yang, the son of Yen-I and Tsai-Shai Yang and the sister of Yee-Chin Lin. Robert testified at
    Williams’ trial that he heard the sound of someone breaking into the motel, followed by
    screaming and gunshots. When Robert entered the motel office he saw all of his family dead or
    dying as a result of the shots fired by Stanley Williams.
    Tsai-Shai Yang came to America in 1973 in search of a better life. Her husband, Yen-I,
    arrived a short time later. In July 1975, the Yangs purchased the Brookhaven Motel. Tsai-Shai
    and Yen-I ran the motel with their son Robert. At the time of their murders, in addition to
    Robert, the Yangs had five other children. They also had ten grandchildren.
    Yee-Chin Lin was visiting from Taiwan when Stanley Williams murdered her. Yee-
    Chin was married with three children, a 10 year old daughter, a 13 year old son, and a 14 year
    old son. When Stanley Williams shot-gunned Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang, and Yee-Chin Lin
    to death, he not only took their lives, he stole the hopes and aspirations of the entire Yang
    family. Little did Yee-Chin’s children know that when they said good-bye to their mother as
    she left Taiwan for a short visit to America, she would never again return home.
    In the petition filed in support of Williams’ request for clemency, the claim is made that
    Stanley Williams is today a different man. Even if that were the case,
    the jury’s determination that Williams suffer the penalty of death for his crimes was appropriate and should be carried
    out. Additionally, Williams has never accepted responsibility for the murders of Albert Owens,
    Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang, and Yee-Chen Lin, nor has he accepted responsibility for the
    devastation of their respective families. Williams claims he cannot accept responsibility for
    these murders because he is innocent. A thorough review of the evidence simply does not
    support Williams’ claim of innocence.
    Additionally, Williams has never accepted his responsibility for his plot to escape from
    the Los Angeles County Jail while awaiting trial. Does an innocent man, a man who is
    represented by an experienced attorney of his own choosing, plot to escape from custody prior
    to his trial? This plot to escape from custody involved the plan to kill two sheriff’s deputies,
    witness Alfred “Blackie” Coward, and the other inmates on the bus. Moreover, this plot to
    escape from custody and commit additional murders was proven beyond any possible doubt by
    Williams’ own words, including “[a]s for Blackie hes (sic) only he (sic) heart beat away from
    death.”
    What must not be forgotten is that Williams’ escape plan also called for using dynamite
    to blow up the sheriff’s transportation bus after he escaped from custody. Williams’ motive to
    murder all of his fellow inmates on the bus was to prolong his time to escape. In other words,
    he hoped to prevent the authorities from quickly discovering who, if anyone, had escaped from
    custody. In an act so demonstrative of Williams’ willingness to kill, he was going to commit
    mass murder by dynamite, simply to allow himself more time to escape. These are not the
    actions of a man of peace. Instead, these are the actions of a cold-blooded predator who puts no
    value on life, unless it is his own.
    The petition for clemency filed on Williams’ behalf further contends that he has turned
    his back on the gang lifestyle of his younger years. However, Williams’ refusal to debrief
    proves otherwise. As Vernell Crittendon explained on 60 Minutes, if Williams debriefed it
    would send a powerful message to those who look up to Williams and seek to emulate him.
    Williams’ refusal to debrief, and his characterization of the debriefing process as
    “snitching” clearly shows that Williams has not turned his back on the Crips gang, a gang he
    co-founded. No doubt Williams could provide substantial, in-depth insight into the history and
    structure of the Crips gang. Additionally, there can be little doubt that Williams could provide
    significant information relating to many unsolved crimes, including murders both inside and
    outside the prison walls. This information would help bring closure and some sense of justice
    to the families of many, many victims.
    In the Killing of Bonnie Garland, Willard Gaylin, a psychiatrist, wrote that when a
    murder is committed there is an “. . . immediate revulsion at the nature of the crime.” However,
    as Dr. Gaylin explained, the victim soon “. . . ceases to exist as an identifiable figure.” As time
    passes “. . . the ongoing reality is the criminal” and ultimately the criminal “. . . usurps the
    compassion that is justly his victim’s due.”
    Governor, do not allow Stanley Williams to usurp the compassion that is due Albert
    Owens. Do not allow Stanley Williams to usurp the compassion that is due Yen-I Yang. Do
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    not allow Stanley Williams to usurp the compassion that is due Tsai-Shai Yang. And do not
    allow Stanley Williams to usurp the compassion that is due Yee-Chen Lin. Williams has
    already taken their lives and devastated their families. Stanley Williams does not deserve your
    sympathy, leniency, or mercy.
    The People respectfully request that the Williams’ petition for clemency be denied and
    that the death sentence imposed by the jury almost twenty-five years ago, and affirmed by
    every reviewing court, now be carried out.
    Dated: November 16, 2005
    Respectfully submitted,
    STEVE COOLEY
    District Attorney
    By:_________________________
    JOHN MONAGHAN
    Assistant Head Deputy District Attorney
    By:_________________________
    DAVID WALGREN
    Deputy District Attorney
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    Thank-you for posting that. After reading that I cannot understand how anybody could possibly stand for allowing this SOB to live!
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    Well, there is the hypothesis that he didn't do it. Allegedly all the witnesses had major conflicts of interest. Whether that's entirely true I don't know. In the last 26 years he should have had some success in the appeals process if the defense had a sound case.
    Tookie maintained his claim of innocence until the end. Someone telling the truth would do that. A very self disciplined liar could do that, too. Some of his supporters have vowed that they are going to prove his innocence. That seems a bit ironic, because if it could be done why did they have to wait until he's dead to really get busy on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgruntled
    Well, there is the hypothesis that he didn't do it. Allegedly all the witnesses had major conflicts of interest. Whether that's entirely true I don't know. In the last 26 years he should have had some success in the appeals process if the defense had a sound case.
    Tookie maintained his claim of innocence until the end. Someone telling the truth would do that. A very self disciplined liar could do that, too. Some of his supporters have vowed that they are going to prove his innocence. That seems a bit ironic, because if it could be done why did they have to wait until he's dead to really get busy on it?
    I agree.. 26 years he never had a good appeal case.. well good enough to over throw the setence. That is a lot time to try to convince the law, and failed.

    But its over.. next case....
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    I heard that the ''Bloods'' would turn in weapons and slow down their violence if William's life was spared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyT
    I heard that the ''Bloods'' would turn in weapons and slow down their violence if William's life was spared.

    Lol, yeah right. In any case, why the bloods? He founded the crips...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayksolutions
    Lol, yeah right. In any case, why the bloods? He founded the crips...
    It was on ABC 7, a guy stated *holding an AK* if they didnt execute him, they would turn in illegal weapons.

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    key word 'illegal', they'd say all their weapons are legal and keep em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayksolutions
    key word 'illegal', they'd say all their weapons are legal and keep em.
    You cant prove what they would do. No one can anymore because Williams is dead so we didnt give these guys a chance to turn in

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyT
    You cant prove what they would do.
    That's true enough. But I have a difficult time believing that they would tone down the violence. I don't even see how that is possible considering how you become a member. In order to join the crips you have to do a "whack" in front of member witnesses, so in order to join you have to commit a violent crime. Females wanting to join have the choice of whacking someone or getting gang raped by the members. Somehow I just can't imagine them suddenly becoming peaceful.
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    Do they know who the members of The Crips are? If they do, how come the gang is still on the street making deals and commiting crimes? I just don't understand that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomorrowHosting
    Do they know who the members of The Crips are? If they do, how come the gang is still on the street making deals and commiting crimes? I just don't understand that!
    The police anti-gang units know who some of the gang members are, and many of the leaders. But they have to be caught in the act in order to arrest them. Getting rid of gang members is always a problem. The local community also causes issues when the police get too ambitous in cracking down. Years back when the FBI and NYPD went after a bunch of Mafia members many local italian-americans were outraged and felt their community was being singled out. Out in CA they have had similar problems when trying to get crips and bloods off the street.
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    I read at CNN that it took the guy 31 extra minutes to die

    the person inserting the IV was fumbling around for 31 extra minutes

    apparently they couldn't find a good vein in his arm...

    that must have been torture for him!

    lying on the table for an extra 31 minutes because some goofball cant get an IV

    jesus!!!
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    I dont think he convicted those murders but thats me he should of "deserved to live"!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomorrowHosting
    Do they know who the members of The Crips are? If they do, how come the gang is still on the street making deals and commiting crimes? I just don't understand that!
    Crips and even bloods are evreywhere. Its not even funny. I went to my little brother school its nothing but blood/ crips tags all over the school. They all have there own little groups etc.
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    I think he did it. He had a lot of time to appeal this, as someone noted above, and none of that worked. On the other hand, he committed the crimes when he was young. So, he had all this time to mature and change.

    But how would that make the family feel who lost their loved ones? I know that if I was in their shoes, I'd be very upset with the legal system. Besides, what kind of an example would it set? Kill someone and then write a few books opposing and denouncing what you've done, reach out to the public and your death penalty is erased. That's no grounds to change the verdict. If they found evidence that it was not, in fact, him, that's another story.
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    I know this infringes on our freedoms in America; but shouldn't they pass a law where it is illegal to join a gang like that; maybe just because it is a "hate group"? Saving lives might be worth some innocent gang members freedoms.
    Also Koko, I know what you mean. There are people who are so ignorant of how serious this is. They laugh about it and think it isn't a big problem.
    I also agree with you ayk. At that point I think that he was just trying to get his life spared. I think if he was released, he would have gone out and commited a similar crime, even after educating all of those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomorrowHosting
    I know this infringes on our freedoms in America; but shouldn't they pass a law where it is illegal to join a gang like that; maybe just because it is a "hate group"? Saving lives might be worth some innocent gang members freedoms.
    Also Koko, I know what you mean. There are people who are so ignorant of how serious this is. They laugh about it and think it isn't a big problem.
    I also agree with you ayk. At that point I think that he was just trying to get his life spared. I think if he was released, he would have gone out and commited a similar crime, even after educating all of those people.
    I doubt it would happen because theres all kind of gangs from bloods,crips wallstreet. I think it would get more outta control. If they pass a law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomorrowHosting
    I also agree with you ayk. At that point I think that he was just trying to get his life spared. I think if he was released, he would have gone out and commited a similar crime, even after educating all of those people.
    He wouldn't have gotten out, the death sentence would have become a life sentence without parole if he received clemency. None the less, a jury of his peers found him quilty beyond a reasonable doubt and sentanced him to death for his crimes.

    He most assuredly was trying to spare his life. Prior to being approached by an author to write these books he was busy acting insane trying to get off death row that way. Except for the very end when he was trying out a new tack, he was not a model prisoner.
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    Yea well i think it still would of been good keeping alive. Him inspiring the wanabe gang members to just give it up and stay in school. But its over now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoKo Host
    Yea well i think it still would of been good keeping alive. Him inspiring the wanabe gang members to just give it up and stay in school. But its over now.
    I would agree with you except for one thing, he never, ever, renounced his membership in the crips. He never once agreed to talk about the gang (debrief) with law enforcement. How serious was he about gangs being bad if he was still a crips member? How serious was he if he never did anything to help law enforcement convict other gang members?
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    Well gangs will never be stopped. I dont think.
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    Not executing him sends the message that it's okay to kill people until getting caught and convicted. At that point you can start mending your ways, and the glitterati will try to get your sentence reduced and lavish the attention and resources that they never would if you'd initiated your abstention from crime in advance of getting caught.
    Executing him sends the message that you do to your own life what you do to your victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgruntled
    Not executing him sends the message that it's okay to kill people until getting caught and convicted. At that point you can start mending your ways, and the glitterati will try to get your sentence reduced and lavish the attention and resources that they never would if you'd initiated your abstention from crime in advance of getting caught.
    Executing him sends the message that you do to your own life what you do to your victim.
    I don't agree with this at all, but respect your opinion.

    There are few who contribute to society after being incarcerated, this is one who did though.

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    Can someone please explain to me why inmates have to wait 20 or some years to be executed ? They're costing the tax payers a lot of $$$$ for many years while they wait to be executed. Not only that but when a murderer kills, he/she knows that they'll be ok for 15-25 years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-P
    Can someone please explain to me why inmates have to wait 20 or some years to be executed ? They're costing the tax payers a lot of $$$$ for many years while they wait to be executed. Not only that but when a murderer kills, he/she knows that they'll be ok for 15-25 years...
    This is largely due to the appeals process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trau
    I would agree with you except for one thing, he never, ever, renounced his membership in the crips. He never once agreed to talk about the gang (debrief) with law enforcement. How serious was he about gangs being bad if he was still a crips member? How serious was he if he never did anything to help law enforcement convict other gang members?
    So what if he was a Crip member til the end of his life? I'm willing to bet most of his closest friends were crip members as well. Would you snitch on them?

    Let's say you were a soldier, fighting in a war, and you were taken prisoner by the enemy, would you atleast try to spare the lives of fellow soldiers by not revealing information?

    While most people think there's no honor on the streets, at one point, there was.

    I do not think he should have been executed. I don't think anyone should be executed, ever. If he did indeed comit those crimes, then he should serve life without parole, but not be put to death like a stray dog.
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